Aunt Jodi Speaks with Courage and Conviction
Aug 24th, 2008 by BohemianMoon
(Press link for video of Jodi’s courageous statement)
I have never met Aunt Jodi personally, but I have admired her loving, witty and playful nature, in addition to her obvious talent with children, for over four months.
I first “came across” Aunt Jodi in the now extremely controversial show “Jon and Kate Plus Eight” (see previous blog entry). Jodi, the sister-in-law of Kate Gosselin, was featured numerous times on the show. Interestingly enough though, she was always featured helping to take care of either some of the Gosselin children, or flat out taking care of ALL of the Gosselin children (sick and otherwise), in addition to her own four. This occurred whether they were filming or not. as Jon and Kate flittered hither, thither and yon, doing everything BUT taking care of their brood.
Aunt Jodi quickly became a favorite of viewers on the show. Physically beautiful with a heart to match, Jodi oftentimes seemed to be the only constant caretaker in these little children’s lives (seen with some regularity to the viewers) that actually possessed natural love and talent for child care and fostering the best in her little wards. She easily handled 12 children at one time without going into a screaming banshee meltdown every ten minutes, and seemed to be quite capable of keeping the children from doing the same.
As aired on the show, she had fun with the kids, was creative in her projects with them, instinctively knew when one or more needed that extra little hug, laughed, played and was all around what I consider the epitome of what a talented mother is.
Unfortunately Jodi’s beautiful and honest nature, coupled with her growing popularity on the show, proved to be a major threat to Jon and Kate. Kate believed that Jodi was “making her look bad” (FYI: It is not that hard to do Kate, you do a fine job of all by your lonesome). So when TLC and Figure 8 Films wanted to pay Aunt Jodi for her time and talents, offering a contract for the next season, Kate would have none of it, and that was the end of Aunt Jodi on “Jon and Kate Plus Eight”.
POOF!
Tragically, it was also the end to Aunt Jodi in the little Gosselin’s lives full stop. Because of the greed, delusions of grandeur, narcissistic personality disorders (yes, I have diagnosed them, trust me, it isn’t too hard) and self entitlement issues of BOTH Jon and Kate, they chose to remove from those children’s lives a loving, positive, and CONSTANT family member. Someone that those children could trust and rely on through the madness of being pimped by their parents for a paycheck.
In June of this year, Julie, Jodi’s sister started a blog regarding the entire fiasco, which can be referenced here:
http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com
Of course rumors flew across the internet regarding the veracity of the blog; if it was truly Jodi’s sister, and if it was, why Jodi had not spoke out herself. I do admit that I wondered the same, even though my research and intuition told me it was true. After all, both Jon and Kate have systematically removed all family and friends out of these children’s lives when their help and donations didn’t meet Kate’s “need” for matching baby furniture and designer baby clothes, cash/gift cards, baby sitting at any and all hours, and a tax payer sponsored nurse when the sextuplets were perfectly healthy. Their greed and desire for the high life is unsurpassed, and they will stop at nothing to protect that “celebrity” and what they perceive it brings.
The truth is here, out of the mouth of a wonderful mother, friend and family member, who because of her love for 8 little Gosselins, and children in general, was forced to endure the wrath of Kate, only to have her life altered forever.
One question does remain, however.
Who is next?
Jenny
You are correct I am sure.
At least she got compensated for her abuse.
I am so sorry for Jodi, she is a loving and wonderful person. Kate will be sorry down the road that she did not treat her family with more respect and love. Her brother is also a wonderful asset to the childrens life. Shame on Kate & JOhn and if anything he should stand up to her and put his foot down. He is whipped. I s the money more important than the happiness of your children.
think about it
#3 Cindy~
Thanks for your comments.
I think that Kate will feel some remorse when this entire fiasco comes to a Hawaiin volcano’s head……….and it is happening faster than either Jon or Kate want to admit.
The truly sad thing is that her remorse will not be for the invasion of her children’s privacy and altering their lives forever.
It will be cause the gravy train has come to a screeching halt.
And that, my freind, is the saddest comment of them all.
Aunt Jodi and her sister are a complete joke. They obviously have no class what so ever for pulling this mess. Her little video proves nothing to me. You people need to quit going out of your way to “take them down.” Worry about your own family!
OH and I also think you guys throw the word “abuse” around entirely too much. I have worked with abused kids and I can assure you that the kids are NOT abused!
Well let me see here…………..
Kate Gosselin goes on and on and ON about the fact that they are showing the world their reality. Their show is about their REALITY. The mentality of “what ya see is what you get”. They are in the business of showing people who they are without pretense, correct?
(total is BS since there is no reality to “reality tv”, and it is all staged, but that is for another blog entry).
Jodi was a large part of that reality that Kate wanted to show….she was fine with it as long as Jodi was her lackey. Kate had NO problems whatsoever dissing her sister in law, her BROTHER’S wife on International TV on numerous occasions.
But when Jodi has something to say back, about that same reality, she is “pulling a mess”?
A convenient double standard on Kate’s part, and her misguided fans, doncha think?
Bottomline: What is good for the goose is good for the Gosselin.
I am proud that Jodi had the courage and grace to stand up and set the record straight regarding the reality in the “reality”.
More power to her!
#5/6 Sarah~
Inre: to claims of abuse.
If you have worked with abused kids, as you say you have, then you are quite aware that the addage “sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me” shite, is just that, shite.
Angry words, withholding of love, constant desparaging of your children in front of others, including an International TV audience(only to play those tapes over and over for those same children as they enter their SLEEP state) , constant screaming, berating and threatening of your children, keeping them isolated from their family and peers and having all of their private moments, including bathing and eliminating bodily waste filmed repeatedly, and SHOWN to the world via the TV screen, YouTube and Video, are insidious forms of emotional abuse, and can leave a scar deeper, and harder to recover from, than anything purely physical.
Jon and Kate also use corporal punishment as a means of discipline, and I can bet my bottom dollar that they certainly do not carry that out in the way that it should be, should anyone still actually use that form of barbarism as a means of discipline. They both have spoken regarding their use of corporal punishment at their Christian speaking engagements. TLC felt it would not be in the show’s best interest for the viewers to see corporal punishment being carried out by them, week after week.
At least they got THAT one right.
Jon and Kate do not even use the concept of “time out” correctly, ever.
I am curious though to hear about your work with abused kids and in what capacity you worked with them.
Oh, and your degree/s. I always love hearing about education. Where did you study?
Well considering you are in the business of stalking people I bet you would love to know where I went to school, where I live, my social security number, etc. I have a B.S. in Social Work and I am in grad school working on my Masters degree in Social Work at the moment. I have seen a little girl whose MOTHER use to hold her down and let her dope head boyfriends molest her. Do not try to pull the “anyone who defends the Gosselins is uneducated white trash” theme with me. You are committing your life to destroying their life. That’s pretty pathetic.
I never saw Kate talk bad about Jodi on the show. Anyone who can’t handle a little sarcasm is pretty sad. Jodi has lost my respect by handling the situation the way she did. Her sister is even more childish. I have a sister and I would never go on a public blog and bash her sister-in-law the way Julie did. That is showing no class at all. I can completely understand defending your sister, but there are better ways of doing so. The whole situation is tasteless. It’s just sad that you got so defensive with me just because I do not agree with you. I am not like all of these other people who believe everything they read on the internet. I guess you are just upset because you can’t control me and my thoughts. Well, enjoy your pathetic site and your sad life. Who really has so much time on their hands to devote their life to taking down a family? Pretty pathetic!
Perfect summation of the situation, Bohemian Moon.
It amazes me the hordes of wrongs Kate has done that people can apparently ignore, justify or condone. It sickens me to hear “Don’t take it so serious! It’s a TV show for entertainment purposes only!”
I wonder how those people would feel if they could see into the future and see all these kids “entertaining” psychiatrists with their tales of a shattered, sold to the highest bidder childhood years from now. Unfortunately by the time it gets to that point, the public will have long forgotten these children and they’ll have moved on to their next form of “entertainment” without a second thought of how the Gosselin children fared.
Until changes are made in the reality TV industry to protect children, I can only take solace in knowing Jon and Kate Gosselin will surely know how they fared and have to answer to them. That is, of course, unless she turns them all away when they are no longer beneficial to her as she has so many others.
# 9 Sarah~
“Stalking” is another lowest common denominator in the realm of thoughful debate regarding this issue. It is right up there with “you’re just jealous” and “turn it off if you don’t want to watch”.
Surely an educated woman such as yourself can see that, yes?
I too have a degree in social work and have seen some truly horrific things, but that does not negate the fact that these children are being exploited and exploited to the point that it is affecting them. As stated, emotional abuse can be far more insidious than anything physical.
I am unsure of what your program consisted of, but I presume your program, like mine, required a great deal of child and adolescent psychology. Of course, my focus was on child and family, and that was also the focus on my minor in psychology.
I am definately open to reading some abstracts/journal articles that advocate this type of lifestyle on and for a growing child. By all means, send them my way and we can post them for all to consider. I mean that, truly.
You flatter yourself by thinking I have any interest in “controlling
you or your thoughts”. Quite frankly I found that statement bizarre at best. You imply that one CAN control you in that way, and perhaps that is something that you should look into.
As for your “taking my toys and going home” diatribe at the end of your post, again, that goes in my lowest common denominator of debate cubby, and it leaves me curious as to why someone that has a 4 year degree in social work and is in Graduate School working towards her MSW, would care to portray herself that way.
You make no sense! Did I ever make a statement that someone could control my thoughts? I didn’t think so. There you go making assumptions again! You do know what people say about assuming, yes? Bless your heart. You tried to make me look dumb, but I guess you can try harder next time. That is exactly what you are doing to Jon and Kate. I can imagine that you were “that girl” in class that always thought she knew what was best for every situation. People like you are the reason social workers get such a bad name. You run around accusing people of being horrible parents just because they do things in a different way than you. I’m not quite sure where you come up with the things that you say. Did I say I was “taking my toys and going home?” No, because I’m not 7. Your last statement sums you up completely. Full of judgements and accusations about things you know nothing about. So, what exactly is your job since you have so much time to run this sort of hate blog?
#12 Sarah~
I GET it Sarah! I OWN what you are about.
You are a graduate level student in social work that approves of blatant child exploitation. That should be a very interesting part of your thesis. Your committee is going to lurv it.
Just one more graduate of the Univerity of Cracker Jacks let loose on the social service systems of the good ‘ol USA. Yeah, and people wonder why it is in shambles.
No small wonder there.
As for my livelihood, Sarah, I am currently finishing a two year body of work in non-traditional sculpture (my second degree), called “For the Love of a Child”, and getting it ready for exhibit.
Oh, and the abstracts, Sarah?
As I stated, we would all love you to sumbit them for consideration.
Did you forget them?
BoMo-
Have been checking the EW website every few days as I posted over there early on when it was mentioned the article about J&K appeared. FYI-as Wanda (don’t ask!). Anyway, saw you had posted with the link. Good on you! I must say the sheeple who post there are rather vehement in their love for the G’s. So much so it seems, they turn our concern for the children into hatred and jealousy for the G’s. I have to tell you when I first posted it was to say just check out GWOP’s page people. I got such flake. This one chick directed towards her rant at me personally. It was a rather bizarre feeling, which made me think how weird it must be for the G’s to read the stuff on GWOP WITHOUT commenting back!! Maybe after awhile you get used to it, or because of your borderline personality disorder you just don’t care. Me? I guess I have a conscience. Love your work by the way!
Much to my husband’s horror
, I’ve watched the show from the beginning. We have five children and I am always intrigued about how other large families function and cope. I think that their kids are cute and some of them are bratty. Unfortunately, this happens when one has many children; some of them act that way from time to time, others just …..live there, in the land of Brat. 
I must admit that for me, something started to change somewhere early in season 2. But it’s rather like a train wreck, where one knows it’s going to be ugly, but you can’t NOT look.
I want to quit watching, but I’m inexplicably drawn back. How come their website says that the kids have grandparents, but none who are involved in their day to day lives? How come there’s never any footage of phone calls, mention of grandparents, mention of gifts from them at holidays or birthdays, mention of ‘When I was little, Grandma/pa used to do x’….. The silence speeks volumes, you know? And my stars and garters, the It boggles the mind. I’m embarrassed FOR Kate, and I don’t even know her. I understand that some people cope with
Oopsie, premature posting.
I was going to say…my stars and garters, the RUDENESS! It boggles the mind. I’m embarrassed for her and I don’t even know her. I understand that some people cope with stress badly, but most of us have a filter and there’s a limit to the things we’ll say or how far we’ll go with our loved ones. It makes me sad.
#15~ Lisa
Hey there:)
BoMo………….I like that! Thank you for taking the time to read and comment
I vote on the “Just don’t care” due to Kate’s:
Symptoms
Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:
*Believing that you’re better than others
*Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
*Exaggerating your achievements or talents
*Expecting constant praise and admiration
*Believing that you’re special
*Failing to recognize other people’s emotions and feelings
*Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
*Taking advantage of others
*Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
*Being jealous of others
*Believing that others are jealous of you
*Trouble keeping healthy relationships
*Setting unrealistic goals
*Being easily hurt and rejected
*Having a fragile self-esteem
*Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence or strong self-esteem, it’s not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence and self-esteem into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal. In contrast, people who have healthy confidence and self-esteem don’t value themselves more than they value others.
When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may have a sense of entitlement. And when you don’t receive the special treatment to which you feel entitled, you may become very impatient or angry. You may also seek out others you think have the same special talents, power and qualities — people you see as equals. You may insist on having “the best” of everything — the best car, athletic club, medical care or social circles, for instance.
But underneath all this grandiosity often lies a very fragile self-esteem. You have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have a sense of secret shame and humiliation. And in order to make yourself feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and efforts to belittle the other person to make yourself appear better.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/narcissistic-personality-disorder
Unfortunately she is going to have to deal with the above issue before she can possibly work on a conscious.
Let us hope it is sooner than later. …..before more damage is done to those 8 kids!
Oh, hey! I hear you on the narcissistic personality thing. It’s my step-mother (or rather, the woman my father married who did not give birth to me) to a tee. And possibly my only-child father to an extent. I had suspected Kate as being at the very least, a pathelogical liar and had found a site listing behaviors of such, which I posted on GWOP. Of course, can’t re-find it but you are obviously well aware that pathelogical lying is usually a symptom of some other psychological disorder, none of them relating to being a happy, mentally healthy and stable individual!! Hadn’t been aware of the NP thing having a relationship to low self-esteem issues although I just yesterday I had sent a post to GWOP in response to people wondering about why Kate is the way she is and what must have happened early in life. I’m thinking maybe i should go back to school as I seem to be diagnosing without a degree!!!
Sarah, I totally agree with you, Espically about Jodi, she is about as sick as they come, what the hell is sweet about her? absolutely nothing, she is two-faced as the day is light, Keep up the thoughts, as for the poster who commented on GWOP and it did’nt show up, well thats how they run their board, if you say one thing nice about Kate, you’ll necer get in,
But this sounds like another GWOP board, don’t forget to add (gate) to all your phrases ppl, that will make you legitimate.
#20 Sadi~
I have stated a number of times on my blog, including in my “Who is Bohemian Moon” section, that it is not my intention to censor people.
If you have not noticed by now, I am a relative tough cookie, and certainly welcome an opposing view. No one would ever be able to question their own beliefs if all they did was read and commune with those that agreed with them.
That said, there are a few things that I will not let on my blog in general (I do have a number of other articles that have nothing to do with Jon and Kate Plus Eight that I am concerned with), and that is blatant spam, if people threaten me or another other in a totally inappropriate manner, or obvious children/tweens. Particularly those that try and leave personal information in terms of location or their email, as I have seen on other J&K blogs (which, as you can imagine, is frightening to me that many blog owners either are not screening anything or have no problem with children giving out their personal details on a blog).
Just because I do not agree with you, certainly doesn’t mean that your opinion is not valuable, or valued.
And for what it is worth, GwoP is hysterically busy and they DO get a lot of the foregoing things I just stated I do not let on my blog. I do not always read there, but I was there today and it actually had a good deal of balance to it, IMO, both pro and con.
Thanks for your comments:)
i just have to comment! as a social worker myelf (case manager for juvenile felony offenders in the foster care system), i just have one comment for sarah…. get back to us when you’ve actually worked in this field a few years. all that schooling means nothing without the experience. would children’s services take the gosselin children? no. does that mean their parents are not doing irreparable damage? nope. sadly, our social work system in this country is so underfunded and understaffed only the worst cases really get the attention they need. workers don’t have the time, money, or manpower to investigate emotional abuse. doesn’t make it any less damaging to the victims.
#22 Marie~
I thank you for taking the time to read and offer your comments, it is appreciated!
And you are absolutely correct.
Sarah,
Your BS degree is just that–bull s–t……..
Abuse is abuse not matter what form it takes–To compare the horror of one victim to another is never done…In fact, the accepted thinking now is what a person perceives as abuse is ABUSE….
BTW-How much does PR pay now? Apparently, not enough to do actual research on the position you are defending.
When did the amount of “class” of lack thereof have anything to do with abuse–You took credit hrs in accessing class? Define class–
What Kate & the parrot said about Jodi was condescending not sarcastic–I
I’ve made my point– I thinkit is highly suspect you even have a high school diploma
IMO………When this finally ends, Kate will not be sorry or remorseful. Kate will be angry. It will be everyones fault except hers.
OMG.. sorry about all the typo’s in 24, Two grdaughters here, 4yrs & 18 mos… Hubby looking for pots & pans(we’ve only lived in this house 29 yrs. & you know I move them around along with his socks,hairbrush & keys just to create confusion) aaarrrgh. Also weather chanel blaring, we live on the TX gulf coast. It’s all fun here!
Happy Sunday everyone-
Just wanted to report that the Gosselins have a new website, although at the moment it is down, and we are all thinking it has to do with the many comments over at GWoP’s site. We know J&K were monitoring it because many of the glaring spelling errors were later fixed. After reading the Q&A section many of us have concluded the site address should be changed to http://www.damagecontrol.com
#26 Carolsue~
You crack me up!
And my prayers are with you regarding Bully Gustav! I lived Fort Lauderdale, Florida for 15.5 years, and have been through my share of hurricanes…..both mild and fierce. The last was Wilma and my then fiance (husband now) David, was over from his homeland, Scotland. He had never been through something like that, and he was awed by the power, or lack thereof, as the electricity was out in our area for almost three weeks. We “lived” at a generator powered coffee/cyber cafe for much of that time, as we both work online.
Anyhoo, you are in my thoughts and prayers. I have been plugged into CNN most of the day keeping watch.
Keep in touch!
#27 Lisa~
I have not been to GWoP in a couple of days, but I do think that they have taken it down also due to Paul Petersen. Katee thought she was clever in many of her answers in the Q&A section, unfortunately, many of them were VERY telling, and no reading between the lines was necessary.
Please check out my last two blog entries, as I talk about the most, IMO, damaging.
http://blog.psychic-wisdom.net/2008/08/31/a-minor-consideration-for-jon-and-kate/
http://blog.psychic-wisdom.net/2008/08/31/if-tlcfigure-8-wont-speak-perhaps-the-attorney-general-will/
I just love how all of you are so quick to cast stones. Carol Sue, what exactly is it that you do since you claim to be so darn smart? Bohemian Moon, do you even have a job? You obviously were not cut out for social services since you have an overwhelming amount of time to devote to sculptures and blogs! I do not need your approval because I know I will make an excellent social worker. My professors have taught me a lot about people like you, so I will be sure to NEVER end up like you. So tell me, what kind of experience do you two have? CarolSue, just because you have grandkids doesn’t make you an expert on kids. Bohemian Moon, just because you can sculpt and write a blog doesn’t make you and expert either. Anyone can get through school, but you have to actually CARE to be an effective social worker. I do not need your approval to know that I will make a difference in this screwed up world. It is very sad that you people are so set on “bringing down the Gosselins.” You have consumed your life with bashing them on every blog you can find. I think the Gosselins are good people and they mean well. They have done things that I do not agree with, but I would love to see one person in the world that has done everything perfect! Do you forget that one day the kids will be old enough to read the mean comments people have made about them and their family? I really hope that you don’t have kids because I couldn’t even imagine how screwed up they must be with such judgemental parents! Way to be a good role model!!!
Thanks BoMo! I was so caught up in following this particular thread I forgot that their were other posts from you as well….DUH!! It would seem the gravy train is slowly, but surely pulling away from the station and the Gosselin’s will be left holding the bag. Only in this case the bag consists of 8 little humans, of which 6 of those have no idea of what life is like without lights, cameras, action. That is frightening! The choice they have made to insulate themselves from others, not on a payroll, in my opinion, is going to be a mistake they will regret. At 52 I am well aware that if you have burnt a bridge at some point and you aren’t willing to apologize and/or grovel, then not only is the bridge gone but the ashes have blown away as well. In the 4 years of reality with these folk I have yet to see much in the way of apologies (Kate, stop hitting me! I’m sorry Jon, I thought you liked it.) and certainly no groveling unless begging for a new home, a new camera,etc. could be considered groveling. If nothing else, the tax payers of PA should demand that this family be investigated. I have no doubt that Kate loves her children, it’s just that she has a warped sense of what love is all about.
Moon–
I glad you enjoyed that–I do enjoy your writings–I’m totally unable to organize my thoughts long enough to compose anything longer than a paragraph- Blogs are good for me–lol–
Maybe if I read the forthcoming book of knowledge I’d pick up some tips on organization – She did(?) write a book–the tips on preparing a meal,serving a meal,cleaning up after a meal I can live without- I’ve been doing this for 40 yrs without having a system–Who knew, I’ve been winging it all this time–OMG, I’m old–Just realized I’ve been cooking & cleaning longer than she is old–OMG,OMG. That sets a different tone for the remainder of this day!
I think Bloody Mary’s sound like the perfect evening meal-spicy using Gray Goose–
Thanks so much for your prayers about that bad boy, you must be in good standing with your higher power. Earlier the weather channel put all there eggs in one basket–Morgan City,LA–Still puts N.O. on the dirty side–I pray for them, Idon’t know how they can take much more–
#30~ Sarah~
I call them like I see them, Sarah.
Apparently you have just come back to cast a few of your own. Fair enough.
I will entertain your questions, and pose a few of my own. If you read my last answer to you, I am presently getting ready for exhibit that encompasses a two year body of work that dialogues regarding child abuse/domestic violence, which has always been my focus in terms of professional work whether that be in the trenches of the social services systems or in an art exhibit. Do you understand the concepts of grants?
You sound young, Sarah. And I will gently suggest to you that more knowledge comes from experience and doing, than it will ever from any book. In my last year I was not even in the classroom. I was in the trenches, and I saw more that year than I could have imagined, but I also learned a great deal. One important point I want to make to you, is you need to learn to look UNDER the surface of the families that you serve. You need to not go explicitly by a what is in a case study, or their case study. You need to develop your intuition and radar, or you are going to miss a HEAP, only to find a year later, that your may have been able to intervene sooner if you had learned to read clear signs that are not always visible. Hopefully, you will be able to cultivate this talent, which is, IMO, at the core of good social work that focuses on women, family and children.
I am a parent. I was a single parent almost the entirety of my parenting years. I made it fine and my son is an incredibly intelligent, passionate, talented free thinker. He started university at 16 and just finished his second year. I did this all on little salary. How in the world did I do that without hand-outs at every turn? I would say I have been an incredible role model to my son, or at least he tells me that I have been. He is one of my greatest “fans” as he is mine. I have a kid who watched me accomplish as I watched him.
It does not get better than that.
Sarah, I am changing my name, in your honor, to ” I Read What Stupid People Write”. Sounds like what every other celebrity-worshipping teeny-bopper writes when his/her favorite heartthrob is criticized in the media for some form of bad behavior or another. Grow up, learn how to write a constructive argument, and don’t forget those abstracts!
#31~ Lisa
At 52 I am well aware that if you have burnt a bridge at some point and you aren’t willing to apologize and/or grovel, then not only is the bridge gone but the ashes have blown away as well.
I just love this. Profound.
What a great lesson. I love how you phrased this. It is going in my quote collection.
Thank you so much!
#32 Carolsue~
(Love that handle………..not sure why……….)
Our Sarah has come back to toss a few stones. Ah, the pink cloud of youth eh?
I wouldn’t trade my life years/experience for an 8000 square foot home on a silver, er, ah platinum platter.
I have been thinking about the major generation gap that I see over the entirety of the net………I find it very curious……….the social more seems to revolve around a great deal of materialism and “me” ism.
So many young women/mothers easily say “Oh come on now, if someone offered you all of these FREE things, you can’t tell me that you would not take it”.
They all seem to ignore the brutal fact that nothing material is “free”. It comes with a cost.
I am fascinated with what their limit is with their own moral/ethical “cost benefit”.
Apparently selling their children to the highest corporate bidder does even register towards that limit.
As I said, fascinating.
#34 I See Stupid People~
Well said! (Sorry Sarah, just calling them as I see them).
And I See, thank you for the reminder.
Sarah keeps coming back to sling insults, but she keeps forgetting those abstracts.
Sarah, you are in graduate school with a large amount of information at your fingertips. Surely it should only take you less than a half hour and 5 clicks of your mouse or so to find us at least one or two.
As I stated, we are all very interested in considering your position. But like all positions in discussion, one should be able to back up their position with some research.
We are still patiently waiting for yours.
BoMo-
No need to post this-
Between you and I “Poor Sarah’ is, as we probably all were at one time, under the impression that what she is learning in school is exactly what will apply to the ‘real world’.
Again (harp-harp) at 52, I know that school is a basis, a jumping off point if you will. You pay your $$ and they teach you the ABC’s.
You walk out that door and Whoa!!! They didn’t ‘teach’ me that!!!
You will have the tools BUT every situation is going to be different and as you mentioned, if only taken at face value, which is the mistake I think many made with J&K+8, you will be doing your clients a huge disservice.
Peace-
#38 Lisa~
I find this a valuable message, Lisa, not only to Sarah, but to many of the younger generation that are still in school, no matter what they are studying.
And I thank you for posting it!
But what do we know, we are just a bunch of “old broads”, eh?
Just because I am young does not mean I am stupid!!! That’s what irritates me about people like you. You are not my teacher by all means! Why should I have to turn anything in to you? I do not need your stamp of approval. I am done with you crazy wacks because all you do is bully anyone you can get your hands on. I write plenty of research papers, but what is the point in writing one for a stupid blog. Get over yourselves and get a real job. Bohemian, maybe you could have supported your son with a better salary if you would get off your computer for 2.4 seconds and get a real job. Is that not what you accuse Jon and Kate of? I am a mother, a full time student, and I work full time! I still manage to have a 3.9 GPA. I do not need some low life freaks to make me feel valued! I have a loving husband and son who think the world of me! I guess we all know why you are single. ..Look at your attitude and judgements towards anyone with opposing views!
Oh, and I am well aware of the fact that I will not know EVERYTHING when I finish grad school. I learn the most when I work at the shelter and do other field experience. I do not claim to know it all, but I do know that I care very much about the well being of others. You people do not care about others. You talk horrible about them and then claim to advocate for them. I feel bad for you…I really do! Hopefully you will not be lonely and miserable old hags forever. You’ll be in my thoughts! Good Luck with life!
#40 Sarah~
See Sarah, once again you show your immaturity. I will add the above diatribe to your others and call it a day.
Quite frankly, you do NOT sound like a graduate student, at all, and never have.
You do not even sound like a college graduate.
IMO you have a great deal of work to do before you are able to effectively deal with people that are in the system, and I cannot believe that the case worker/s that you have been assigned to for your field work have not told you this, assuming that you actually have graduated with your BSW, and have done field work in your Senior year.
You do not relate well, Sarah. You show lack of forethought and critical thinking skills. Instead of a discussion and defending your position, you have simply thrown insults and tantrums.
That is NOT what the overworked, underpaid social service systems of the USA need. This is not what the victims of child abuse, neglect and domestic violence need. They need someone self assured of themselves, who is a quick and thorough thinker that can act swiftly and with comprehension.
Not to mention someone that is strong in psychology and intuition.
Someone who can only sling insults is not what victims/survivors need. They all come from homes wherein this is the norm. They are looking for a savior, not another abuser.
O Sarah, Being an old befuddled tired grandmother we will go through this again– FYI I’m 58—I’ve raised 6 children now raising 1 grdaughter- 5 of these have graduated from college , 2 with advanced degrees—Understand these children(now adults) are my greatest accomplishment-These children were my responsibility-A parents job is to love unconditionally, teach by example, provide food & shelter, bathe, do laundry in the middle of the night, miss more nights of sleep than there are stars, type papers when you can’t type, be a taxi driver, endless rounds of DRs appointments when you have a child that is very ill, cook healthy foods(sometimes),favorite foods more often, to sooth while they are vomiting all over you, changing sheets in the middle of the night,
have 2 pair of good jeans while your kids have 10, parents sacrifice for their children being their biggest cheerleader– There are so many more things you do on a daily basis when you are a parent-
All this bring us to this blog–IMO, the Gosselin’s are nothing more than a book of , How Not To Parent—
I feel Moon was very nice to you–She gave you the benefit of the doubt. You are not a grad student–I have them, you are not. They write in a completely different tone. Also you don’t know the basics-
I think you might work in a minor capacity in Social Services- That’s the most I’ll give you–
To debate the other points is fruitless- You don’t have the life experience to relate & certainly not the book learning–
I never claimed to be,”so damned smart”
At this time you will not make a difference in any child’s life, you can’t even make a difference in your own–Sure you could work you way up the ladder1st with an Associates degree–that is far reaching now–My dear,you lack common sense! You don’t have the necessary skill of reading comprehension–
You ask, Now receive!
Moon, just read your last post to Sarah–I could have just written
DITTO!
LOL, this girl-
Moon,
You said it so much better than I–As I’ve told my kids,”your education is showing”.
Humor is like a giant valium for me–
Yes, they want it all-we weren’t like that were we? No, I’m sure material things were not at the top of our list– Five of ours are into having it all–huge new houses, new furniture(ours came from garage sales & Goodwill), new cars, boats-giant TV’s –You name it they buy it–What in the world?–It’s beyond me–They do have careers that well support their lifestyles–We have one very sweet laid back boy(man,he’s 31 now)-probably smarter than all the others. But has chosen life in the slow lane– He’s very happy with his life– That’s all I ask–He will watch the trainwreck with me, he loves the kids, can’t stand Kon–he came to this on his on–He broached this subject with me very gingerly–I guess he thought I didn’t see what was going on there–Seneility, it’s in the forefront of their minds when dealing with me–I find this more than amusing-
I love these kids, they are my joy–However, my work with them is done– We are parenting our 4yo Grdaughter– Her little sister spends most weekends here–Our precious baby girl died in her sleep Feb. 10th of this year–That explains why I can spend so much time here especially in the middle of the night–Sleep has become a stranger–I don’t know how much I would have been involved in Kon’s life .If it were not for the fact I’m doing all this again with a child just a few months younger than the tup’s– The difference is shocking–I know these kids need all kids of help-They should be much further along developmentally–IIMO they are infantizing (SP) purposely. I do think sippy cups are the greatest thing since white bread– our girl is allowed to take her cup wherever-she does use a regular glass at the table- I do give Kon lots of grace–eight kids can’t be allowed to eat & drink all over the house–OK, I tired, when grace is given to these two it must be time to unload the dishwasher–
Well, if I’d known CarolSue was going to remain at it last night I would have as well! I think I am going thru the perimenopause sleep cycle disruption thing. UGH!
Sarah mentioned her maintaining a 3.9 GPA, which is truly wonderful. It means she is a good test taker and she gets her work turned in on time. It has no bearing whatsoever on her Life GPA, which isn’t measurable till it’s almost game over!!
I also have 5 children, 4 who are into the ‘whoever has the most stuff wins’ way of life and one who goes merrily along enjoying life and learning on a daily basis. I don’t get the accumulation mentality and perhaps it is a trait of growing older (and wiser). We moved alot in the past due to jobs and as time went on I had HUGE yard sales and rented HUGE garbage dumpsters everytime. Prior to my mother passing away in ‘06 she was asking us what is what we wanted and to put into it lists. My father who is a major amasser ( narcissitically so ) and who just turned 80 is now doing the same thing and saying he just doesn’t knowhow in the world he ended up with all this stuff! Things may be nice to have and some may feel that their things are a reflection on who they are, or more likely want to be. But things are just that: things. That painting you had to have from your trip to Florida may bring back fond memories and if you lost it in a fire it would tug at your heart strings, but it doesn’t and won’t mean the same thing to the next person, who may even think it’s the ugliest thing they ever saw! I think you know what I mean.
I was sorry to hear about your daughter, parents should never outlive their children. Unfortunately many do, and alot of them find a way to power through and come out the other side. don’t short yourself and try to breeze through any phase of the grief process. My brother did and he is a mess, although he has no clue he is a mess and you certainly can’t try to tell him he’s a mess. Thankfully I have a wonderful aunt and she and I talk about my mom all the time. My brother or sister? They never mention her name and if I bring it up they quickly move onto the next topic.
But I seem to have digressed slightly from the original gist. If Sarah truly can’t see the forest through the trees in regards to the potential damage being done to all 8 of the Gosselin children then perhaps, dare I say it, she has chosen the wrong field of study.
From her posts the only thing I see is that she argues her case with alot of chest thumping and insult slinging. That won’t work in debate club, the court room or life. It only makes one look less than prepared to argue a point they obviously feel strongly about but aren’t clear on how to convince everyone else of the fact.
I am including a website for you and BoMo to check out at your leisure. I remember hearing years ago about a study done about (dare I even mention?) stupid people and how they don’t realize that they are stupid. I couldn’t find the actual study but came across this website which makes some valid points IMHO.
http://www.rageboy.com/Stupidity.html
I get the feeling I am the next target for Sarah’s rant but she did claim to be done with us old hags so maybe I’m safe……
Enjoy the holiday!!
Lisa,
I checked out the website, lol -I read for a few minutes, I think I need to be able to concentrate- I did find what could be applied to Sarah–She does exhaust me–I knew the GPA was coming & it would be glorious- BS–You & Moon are much nicer than I–In all my dealings with exceptional students, these were the most lowkey in terms of GPA’s & exactly what degrees they already held–Maybe they knew who they were & where they were going?
So far this little 4yo has a set goal of eating all the junk food bought for survival purposes–She is surviving–She just came by to show me a handful of blueberries all the while telltale signs of Oreo’s all over her face–
Not a concern about me & the grieving process- I now find tears running down my face at the most unexpected times-Death of a loved one leaves such a void in our lives- I wonder how many of these tears are self pity?
We have been spared by this storm,just a little wind & rain- not enough to even count–
I should be cleaning something-The lady that helps me went to the Astro’s game last week-She won’t be showing up here til Saturday–See, I don’t have any problem saying I have help in this barn of a house–Why does Kon? I’ve had help for well over 20 yrs. I’m more than thankful-With help I can stay even here -This house is so full of who knows what– There are 3 rooms I no longer go into if I can help it- I’m not ready to face those memories-I’ve read there will come a point when remembering, looking at pictures will bring me comfort-now hysteria seems to be the adjective–
I’d much rather work in the yard–Alas, the heat does take a toll on me now–
I’m off to labor by turning on the washer-
OO, I’m so exhausted–LOL
How to Back Up Your Opinion with Research:
1. Find research gathered from previously written papers (since said individual stated she has written several) on hard drive. If not available online, note source of information.
2. Write a poorly edited comment about “prooving all you wacks wrong” and submit information and papers, if necessary.
3. We pray that you are not finding your information from Wikipedia.
I am so glad I found this blog. Methinks kindred spirits do lurk among us. Carol Sue, I am so sorry. Words are never enough, and time doesn’t seem to erase any grief either. My grandmother died in Feb 2007 at the age of 101. Now, you would think that somewhere around the 90 yr mark, we would have been preparing ourselves. But no, she was slated to live forever (and will, in our hearts and memories). I guess my point is that when you love someone intensely, and miss those moments only the two of you could have, the tears will flow and the void seems to get bigger until you don’t think you can take the “missing them” anymore. I tell myself how silly I am to break into a child like bawl for my Nanny, and that at 101 she certainly had a long and for the most part, happy life. But I still cry and still grieve, and I will until my heart is spent or scabbed over. I think all of my tears are self pity. I honor you for caring for the little one left behind. (Sounds adorable – I can picture the Oreo cookie face!) Glad to hear you made it through the physical storm OK.
And Lisa–can’t wait to check out the link. I was a grad student last year, but with one more year to go, the financial situation of this single mom of 2 teens means I must put the MA on hold and GET A JOB. Ugh. Not “Ugh, I have to get a job”, but “Ugh, I’m 43 and I have to go interview for jobs.” I’m excited to go to work, but since when do employers look at a resume and say, “Sorry–overqualified!” I’m a simple gal, and if I didn’t think I wanted to work for you, I would not have applied. I may have to “dumb down” my resume. University, law school, and some grad school seems threatening to HR people. And you know, if I find a job that I like, the heck with the MA. I’ve learned that a bunch of letters after my name does not mean that I am any more or less intelligent or worthy, or happy than the next person. Sarah does prove that point at least, doesn’t she?
Being as I am in that insomniac-sweaty-restless peri-m thing, I’m perpetually on the night shift, so may check back, if anyone is up.
i too think this is hate website. aren’t these kind of hate websites monitored?
to all–I’m here reading–unable to write now–good to know all of you are here- I have no idea how Kate survives without friends-
Thanks for being on the other end of this–
#50~dianne
Why yes, mine is monitored for sure.
By me, the author and the owner.
As for hate, I do not see any hate here. I do see strong opinions and a major concern for 8 little children that are being exploited.
Thanks for your comment!
To Sarah,
Speaking as a 29 year old single who mom who escaped an abusive relationship with my daughter when she was 3 months old, I can tell you that the key to raising your child is well, is not through earning more money…..It is through dedicating as much of your time, attention, love, compassion, and affection on your child. A better job and more money only means you can buy more THINGS for your children, and lead to greedy spoiled kids, I would rather hug and kiss my little girl while she wears her “non-designer” clothes that smaller pay check could afford, then have some daycare attendant raise her willy nilly so I can afford to buy her designer duds, and every toy she can think of. Thats the problem with parents these days, a lot of them are not actually raising their kids….they meerly support them financially, I kind of feel sorry for your little boy!!
To Moon, as fellow single mom MORE POWER TO YOU, if only there were more like us, kids would be better off!!
BTW-As much as I do not appreciate Pam Andersons work as an “actor” I have to say I applaud her new show…..you can hear her kids speak somewhere in the back ground, but she will never allow her kids to be videotaped for the purpose of the show…..Finally a Reality TV show mom with some common sense!! And what a surprise to me who she turned out to be, Good for you Pam, Shame on you KON!