All Smiles~ Jon and Kate Plus Eight Recap 1/12/09
Jan 13th, 2009 by BohemianMoon

Submitted by: LISA
ALL SMILES
(The sextuplets visit the dentist for another cleaning and check up. Will they all remain calm in the chair or will there be a repeat of prior checkups? Also, Mady and Cara visit the orthodontist for the first time to find out if they both need braces.)
Hold on just a minute! Is this a repeat? Haven’t we been treated to a dental office trip before? Do we really need to revisit this?
I will say I was thankful that once again the episode was only ½ hour long but when it was finally over I myself felt the need for a shot of Novocain, tequila chaser.
I came to the conclusion the only reason for a second episode featuring the dentist was so when ‘the cost of braces’ comes up during church talks, the Love Offerings will continue to pour in. And definitely helps to keep the sale of $20 photos going.
So, we begin with Kate explaining this is a 6 month checkup and that yes, indeed, she takes all 6 of them at once, or else “I’d be at the dentist every week”. Ah, no, no you wouldn’t. But then we are all aware of Kate’s need for dramatizing and over exaggerating every circumstance in her life.
Oh, and the reason Hannie (who now also goes by Muffie) is on the couch with her parents is because she was ‘major missing’ her mom. Sorry Jon, she wasn’t missing you.
And as we also know, Hannie generally gets her way instead of being told that this is mommy and daddy’s camera time. Giving into children only makes for more problems down the road, but Kate seems clueless to this bit of parenting. Personally, I’m fine with it because it’s not my ass that’ll be bit by a bunch of unruly teenagers!
One of the girl tups ( sorry, I watch the show but don’t feel the need to remember which kid is which) is asked if she brushes her teeth. She chirps up, “Daddy does” and then seems to remember she has messed up that line so corrects herself and says, “Mommy does”. And anyone who watches the show knows it is Jon who does the tooth brushing.
And bigger question, why aren’t 4 and ½ year olds at least given the opportunity to start the brushing process and then have a parent finish it up?
Oh, right, because it’s easier for Kate to have Jon do it.
We finally get to the dental office and the circus performers troop in. Kate immediately is seen telling them there will be time out’s if they don’t behave appropriately. The kids actually seem to take this to heart which can only mean Kate is finally, after 4 years, attempting to control the wild Indian behavior in her kids when they are out in public. About time is all I can say.
The kids are marched back to the chairs. Three will go at a time, while the other three get to sit and observe. I think I would have kept the waiting three as far away as possible from the in the chair three, on the off chance someone had a meltdown and freaked out the rest of the kids. Fortunately there were no meltdowns this time, even though comfort blankies were brought along just in case.
Kate does have to have a word with the dentist about a book in her waiting room. Pluto isn’t a planet any longer after all, a fact Kate seems very proud of knowing. She says she will have to “condemn” the dentist for having said book in the waiting room!! Okay. Kate? You had me at Pluto isn’t a planet anymore, but you should have kept your pie hole shut at that point, because once again you make yourself look less than smart. DO NOT try to use big words Kate. It doesn’t work for you honey!!
The kids get to choose what flavor of paste they get their teeth cleaned with and I must admit the list is a bit overwhelming. What were there? Seventeen choices? Aadan seems confused by the multiple choice question and the tech asks if he likes Bubble Gum? Oh yeah, you betcha, he shakes his head yes.
Bubble Gum? I thought Kate didn’t allow the kids to have gum. Maybe he just “remembers’ he likes the flavor. Joel was cute asking for mango flavored, the only flavor NOT offered and we are reminded of the recent Hawaii trip. Bleech!
Back at the couch Kate is saying that the check up wasn’t really needed that much. The kids are 4 and ½ already, and then wistfully says: “How did that happen?” At which point I wanted to shout at the television and say: “It happened because you have been so busy orchestrating your and your entire families life that you haven’t taken the time to stop and actually enjoy a moment of your children’s lives. And, if you aren’t sure how they are all of a sudden are 4 and ½, don’t forget you have all those videos with the memories on them that you were too busy to make yourselves. Remember Kate?
The kids look cute wearing their sunglasses for their cleanings. One group of three down. Next group of three in the chairs. It was truly like an instant replay of the first three and totally unnecessary in my opinion, but was indeed a time filler.
Cut to the couch and Hannie was asked if it was fun? She is acting shy and not saying much. Jon starts to ask something about the dentist or the stickers they got and is abruptly ‘shhhushed’ by the Dominatrix. Kate then asks which flavor Hannie chose and she definitely isn’t into talking at this point. Kate has to point out to us that she is embarrassed.
I do have to say that the interaction between the dental office staff and the children was way more entertaining than any interactions I have seen lately of Kate with her own kids. How sad is that?
The dentist informs Kate that she finds no cavities or other problems but that the kids do need to brush better. Of course, this is all Jon’s fault and Kate makes certain to tell him he must do a better job. See, Kate? Just because you have two sets of toothbrushes scattered throughout the house doesn’t necessarily mean the job is being done correctly. It just means the job is being done. Much like a lot of your parenting skills. Just because you are a parent doesn’t necessarily mean you are doing a good job of it!
Commercial break and then it’s off to the orthodontist. I am assuming that the twins also went to a regular dental appointment and it was suggested they visit an orthodontist. I know I personally didn’t pop over to the orthodontist when I needed braces. Our dentist made that determination. And yet, since Kate wore braces for a period of time, she would now be an expert on the subject of who does and doesn’t need braces. Perhaps there is a book on Orthodontia in the works?
On the couch Kate drones on about knowing Mady is going to have issues with her teeth. She knows Mady would need major…major….major….major…MAJOR work. Five times in a row, Kate says major. I kid you not. Kate wonders if the tooth fairy is rearranging Mady’s teeth at night. HUH? And then once more, for emphasis, Kate says Mady will need MAJOR intervention. Yes, Doctor of Dental Science Gosselin, we got it!
Neither Mady nor Cara seem too excited about being there. Neither wants to have x-rays taken first. Neither wants to see the dentist first. They both get pissy about it. At which point Kate says, “I think they were both excited!!” Something about kids in their class getting braces. Hey Kate? Just because someone else is doing something or has something doesn’t mean you have to do it or have it……….oh wait. What am I saying? That is Kate’s sole motivation in everything she does! Well, really, it’s God‘s motivation I guess.
Cara finally goes first. Cut to couch and Kate talking about her time in braces and how it has changed the shape of her jaw. She turns to Jon and says, as long as I look thinner, that’s all I care about! Not the fact that your teeth were corrected? Just about how you look? Is she for real?
We are told at least twice that the dentist is really good with kids and are friends of Jon’s family. Jon’s family has friends? And one can assume that Kate’s family has at least church friends. And Jon & Kate have……….right!……..the cameramen. Because once again, Kate turns and says to the cameraman, “No one sang to me when I got my braces off!”, in reference to the ortho office lady saying she sings when braces come off. How does this woman manage to make everything about her? Mothers by nature are sharers Kate, something you really need to get a handle on!
There is a tour of the office. The consultation is held. Mady doesn’t like her teeth. Kate laughs….LAUGHS, because the review of Mady’s x-rays “take a reallllll-y looooon-g time”. Cara has bite issues. Cara does an acceptable job brushing. Mady? Not so much. Kate says she wishes she could still brush the twins teeth so they would be better brushed. Hey Kate? Teach them how to brush and then let them do it!
We learn Mady has two options for correction. Either a retainer or limited braces, maybe 10 months. Okay. I had to wear braces for nearly 4 years. That would be MAJOR (times 5!). Kate is sure that Mady is going to need MAJOR intervention. Ten months is not MAJOR. Not by a long shot. Again over dramatize it Kate. Exaggerate. Embarrass the hell out of your daughter on national television. It isn’t that kid’s teeth that are going to need an intervention, it’s her head! And hey, for future reference, wearing braces does not an orthopedist make, okay Kate? Try doing your job as a mom and let others do their job, got it?
Cara is okay for the time being. More than likely it will depend on how many of the tups need braces and whether the Love Offerings are still rolling in at that point. Keep your fingers crossed Cara!
The End.
So, what are we left with? Another episode of memories that Mady will have so she can again watch her mother belittle her on television. I can see it all now. The kids at school calling her “Major Mady”. Perhaps preferable to “Daughter of Psycho Mom”.

Hi Moon-
Just a long-time lurker with an over-due thank you for sharing your blog. I’ve pretty much given up on the “other” site because it just seems so petty and trashy—lots of unnecessary bashing on the children and even (dare I say) Kate. Let me clarify that I’m certainly no fan or sheeple, but I feel the premise of GWoP (to defend the kids and open the eyes of those die-hard fans) has taken a backseat to ragging on her “unique” hairstyle and what she is wearing these days. It’s petty stuff like that which makes a site lose credibility IMHO.
Let me just give a shout-out and thanks to Lisa for sitting through the episodes and writing up the recaps. I never feel comfortable getting a laugh at someone’s expense and am relieved to find your musings free of that!
Thanks again, Ladies for helping me get my “Oh no she didn’t” fix!!
2sillymonkeys~
Welcome and thanks for contributing to Musings.
I do want to clarify that IMO, GWoP is running their site the way that they see fit, which is their obvious right, which I have no problem with personally. Everyone has the right to conduct their own site the way they desire, and to publish or not publish what they feel will work for the site as a whole.
I am glad that you have come out of the “shadows” and I do hope to see more of you!
Great recap! I just watched bits and pieces but I remember during the interaction with the dental staff thinking “too bad Kate doesn’t interact with her kids like that.”
Also, how could they have allowed the little kids to stand right their while others were being examined! As a doctor, that would’ve driven me crazy.
What ever happen to HIPPA(?) and medical privacy laws?
Funny that most people want privacy and need to sign forms in order to share their files but Kate just shows all her kids with no thought to THEIR privacy.
I am so sick of this woman.
fxfanatic~
And once again Mady is highlighted and the brunt of her own parent’s jokes for international TV.
Jon and Kate Gosselin revolt me.
Oh, Moon, once again you fail to get Kate’s sense of humor. Make fun of a kid who’s scared of years of painful dental work. Oh, HA HA HA, that’s so MAJOR funny! Comfort her? You gotta be kidding. The fear and humiliation of your daughter is loads of laughs! Make sure America sees her wonky teeth up close. Laugh again! Make crablike motions with your hands to indicate the kids snaggle teeth. HA HA HA! Kate is a gas, a regular stand up comic. Super mom! Discoverer of solar system inaccuracies! Mother of Hannah, Hannie, Muffie! Business partner of Jon! Owner of a corperation! Sandwich cutter! Biblical scholar! And now…comic genius. Woe to you who fail to recognize the depth of her intelligence and do not follow her scripture and learn from her life experiences. Now, excuse me while I watch Kate, punch my kids in the face and book my spa appointment.
DirtyDisher~
Thank you! Your commentary never ceases to be not only poignant but humorously (sarcastic) as well
Yes, I just LOVED, LOVED, LOVED (not) the wide screen close up of poor Mady’s dentition and the subsequent jokes her parents made about her and it.
Whomever thinks this is right and not potentially damaging to the child is totally F’ed up, IMO.
Totally.
Thanks for the recap. I fell asleep before LP,BW was over last night. Stupid cold.
She really said Mady needed Major(X5) work? Poor kid-even if that were the case, did she really need to make it sound so bad?
FTR, I had MAJOR work. Six years of braces, 12 teeth yanked and a year of retainers. Basically, my jaw was too small for the adult teeth. Even today, when I get dental work and xrays, they use pediatric stuff on me. Thank God my parents never brought up that I needed Major, major, major, major, major orthodontia.
I look at it this way-at least I’ll know what my kids are going through when they reach that age and will be able to provide foods that won’t hurt and things to comfort sore mouths. Kate? I think she missed the class that any life experience you have can help your child’s path.
Moon, I know I don’t say it enough, but thank you for having your site. I found you because of the others, but I don’t even bother with any (except the Tom & Trix updates).
If any of the emotional abuse is superficial and doesn’t really effect them, that is wonderful. We all say or do things to our children that may not have been the best choice at the time.
However, WE DON’T RECORD IT FOR FUTURE therapy sessions!! The Cupcake deal may not be remembered the next day but how about when the boys watch it years from now? How about ANY of the kids watching this and remembering, “oh yeah . . . she almost threw out my blankie because I got gum out of it”.
Sad.
Suzanne~
Yes, she and Jon sat on the couch saying over and over how much MAJOR work that she needed and making fun of it, complete with snarky faces and pretending to pull teeth. They allowed the orthodontist x-rays and pictures of the twin’s dentition. They highlighted, in screen size pictures, Mady’s teeth and where she needed to concentrate on better brushing. It was not pretty, nor was it fair to that child. Then the couch snarking continued in its full “glory” with Hannah present. Lovely. Nice to snark on your child so severely with your other children present. It doesn’t matter anyway as they say that their kids watch the show.
What cruel mind F is THAT?
My son’s mouth was a mess. His jaw too was too small for his teeth and he also had adult teeth coming in behind his baby teeth, both upper and lower. He started orthodontics at 8 and finished at 12. I would not have wanted his first dentition pictures/xrays broadcast any where. He has beautiful teeth now and a fantastic smile, but the process was not easy for him. I will say that orthodontics has really advanced since I was a kid. They actually make wearing braces as fun as possible with all of the colored and picture retainers; the colorful bands and colorful braces themselves, if that is what the child chooses. My kid had all sorts of colors, and that was considered “trendy”, so Mady could have some fun with a relatively painful process. It was a total invasion of her privacy, though, to show the dental consultation, broadcast those dental pictures, let alone have her parents making fun of her on national TV.
Again, the “parents” revolt me.
Hi Moon,
Didn’t know where to post this.
Apparantly the writer seeking info on KON is legitimate.
The following was just posted on GWOP. Serena is one of the originators and mods of the site.
“Hi all- It’s been a pleasure reading your thoughts on the show, and I hope you’ll be pleased to know that yes, the media listens.
I’m a writer on assignment to investigate many of your concerns for publication in a major magazine. This will be a longer article than others on the subject and far more in depth than those published before. I’m also in contact with Paul Petersen with A Minor Consideration and others who are also investigating this show. Serena has spoken to my editor and can confirm that I am a legitimate journalist on assignment.
Here’s where you come in: I need to substantiate many claims made about the show and the Gosselins in order to publish them. I’m looking for legitimate leads who can help me do that. Please contact me at magreporter@gmail.com if any of these apply to you:
1. you know the Gosselins personally or have met them in some circumstance
2. you’ve attended any of their book signings or speaking engagements
3. you live/lived in Elizabethtown, Mt. Joy, Wernersville, the greater Reading area, etc.
4. you booked or attempted to book the Gosselins for a speaking engagement
5. you have been on the show or know someone who has been on the show
I’m looking for real human beings who can help with my reporting. You WILL NOT be quoted from (unless you choose to be).
Thank you!
Jess
Note from Serena: Yes, I did speak with the Articles Editor at this magazine to confirm the legitimacy of this request, as well as communicate with Jess. This is something we’ve all been wanting — a piece by the mainstream media that is NOT the usual fluff, that is not engineered by the Gosselin PR machine, and that shifts the focus to the problem of child exploitation in the Reality TV market and the lack of legislation to protect minors working in it.
If you have any of the information being requested please contact Jess at the email address provided above. (Jess is currently working free-lance, for those of you wondering about the gmail address.) Also, we will not be revealing the name of the magazine at this time.
Posted by Serena on 1/13/2009 7 comments “
Syl~
I have published your comment and will make it an entry a little later today.
Thank you!
Moon,
May I copy & post on CafeMom(WAJ) #10–the bottom portion from GWOP?
Thanks,
Wonderful to hear that someone is tackling the g group.
Hope they are investigated from every conceivable angle.
Hope Jess ( a pseudo, I hope) has a iron steel stomach so
that s/he can tolerate any retaliation that might be forcoming.
There certainly is alot of good quality info available. Let’s
hope the topix/elizabethtown group will be forthcoming with info.
Every epi of the show demonstrates poor parently skills to there should be proof of everything.
Sincerely hope this expose is forthcoming in the next few months.
Thanks again for a great informative site.
carolsue~
I am sure GWoP be fine with that.
Hugz, Mz. Carolsue
Oh, now THIS is exciting news! Maybe the other shoes are about to drop.
I missed this episode, and I can’t say that I am one bit upset about it. They actually made faces and made fun of their child’s teeth on television? That has got to be one of the cruelest things they have done so far. Talk about psychological abuse! That poor child probably got harassed at school like no other, matter of fact they are probably still at it, children can be very cruel. This woman is truly unbelievable, I cannot even fathom making fun of my child’s teeth let alone with the whole world watching, way to wreck what ever self esteem she has. It’s a funny thing if Mady were a foster child Kate would have got written up for abuse, but because it is her own child they wrote an episode about it instead, go figure!
michele~
Yes, they made faces and made fun of their children’s teeth for international TV, Youtube, future DVDs, and oh, lets us not forget Ipods.
Giddy from the Heat~
One can only hope!
I lurk at GWOP as well. I liked it better when Serena ran the show. All of a sudden the blog is “Sharla’s” and they accept opposing views now. Instead of ahem balanced discussion, it’s more of a fertile place for trolls to start shit.
Having said this, I still prefer it to the other site. Over there it’s the same minions that would enjoy the episode and claim the kids had fun if they showed them skinning cats or even possums (snark).
#7 Suzanne-
I feel for you. I didn’t mention the hospitalization for oral surgery where they knocked me out so I could have 8 teeth ( including 4 permanent teeth which had not yet grown in!) removed. Major work. Retainer for a year as well. Did you have braces in the era of rubber bands? OMG? Not sure how many of those little bastards ended up in my digestive tract!
And yes, Kate, kind and loving mother that she is, sat on the couch and said Major 5 times in a row, NOT in 5 different sentences over the course of the couch session. 5 times in a single sentence in a row, as stated in the recap.
The woman is absolutely clueless, clueless about what she is doing to her daughter as well as any of the other kids she says something demeaning about. Kate seems to delight in going overboard when it comes to tearing down her own children ( I am sure she is one of those people that makes crappy comments about people she considers friends as well, just depends on which group she is with at the moment!). Which boils down to herself having low self-esteem issues.
They will let anyone be a parent, won’t they?
As the mother of a daughter, I can assure you in no uncertain terms I would never have shared her dental or medical visits with a viewing audience. I do not care what kind of excuses J&K made or what kind are made for them. There is no excuse for exposing their children to the world to discuss any part of their lives.
I am really surprised anyone thinks this behavior can be explained away and still make them out to be good parents.
Yes, they are parents, the kids are fed and clothed and housed. But a GOOD parent takes a long view at what is right and healthy for their child, what is in the best interest of their child.
I have read a lot of excuses at other blogs that assume simply that what the Gosselins are doing now is OK or explainable because they MAY be securing their children’s future.
At what cost?
More rumors abound. Serena didn’t start GWoP, Sharla did and they have run it together. Look at the very first post on the blog.
Met~
Exactly.
They will sell what ever it is they can – they will stop at nothing.
Lisa,
I look at how orthodontics have improved in the 30 odd years since I got mine and am very happy the kids don’t have to go through all of that! I had the wrap around bands that rotted my teeth underneath! A visit for tightening meant I was on soft foods for the next couple of days. My dentist is pretty sure that if I had braces now instead of then that I wouldn’t have TMJ.
Halleluiah! Mainstream media is picking up on this family!
Securing their children’s future could be done in many different ways, the public humiliation is not necessary! With the size of their family each child would surely qualify for financial aid with parents who do not like to work! And the parents could have saved them years of embarrassment, the future psychologist bills they are bound to incur not to mention the probable drug rehab and legal bills when all of these lovely children spiral out of control in their teenage years! Kate and Jon are going to pay for this in a big way wait and see, creating that many dysfunctional children in one family is a train wreck in the making, and the control freak mother is about ten years from a nervous breakdown! Then she can create a new show, it could be a spin off of intervention, and nanny 911 all wrapped up in one!
#24 Suzanne
Mine were just the upper front connected to lower back type bands.
And I hear you on the tightening thing. Horrible.
I also am left with somewhat ( no, there is no somewhat about it!) of a gummy smile.
Hate that!!
Seriously! Kids should only get braces if they are about 13 years old, NOT 9 or 10 or however old they are. And I feel bad for those kids, the pain of the braces stinks. I had them and they were not a walk in the park. I also had them for 4 years because my orthodontist was slow at putting them on ( I hated that!). And Kate doesn’t have to be so scream about every little thing that happens! ” OMG, the ice cream just tuched your hand, now you have to throw it out.” I mean come on. Kids are messy, not to mention little kids. Deal with it, or find someone else to take care of your kids like Jon, who doesn’t care about the kids touching their ice cream. So back to before, little kids should Not get braces… period!!!
seriously~
Seriously! Kids should only get braces if they are about 13 years old, NOT 9 or 10 or however old they are. And I feel bad for those kids, the pain of the braces stinks. I had them and they were not a walk in the park.
My son started orthodontia at 8. His jaw was too small for his teeth and he started wearing a retainer to shift the teeth to fit his jaw as his jaw grew. It is very common I have found, in this day and age, for orthodontics to start early when the jaw is still growing and pliable. It is less invasive at an early age while the jaw is still growing. All and all it was not a walk in the park for my son either, but by the time he was 13, he had finished his orthodontics, including full braces, and has beautiful and healthy teeth.