Ma and Pa Wastrel Hit Wernersville (Jon and Kate Plus the Innocent 8) 2/2 Episode
Feb 2nd, 2009 by BohemianMoon

FROM TLC:
After lots of planning and preparation, the Gosselin clan finally packs up and moves to a more spacious home. Jon and Kate say goodbye to the house where their children spent most of their young lives, and the family embarks on a new chapter of life.
Feel free to post – Recap to Follow!

Do you ever do anything stupid, like say, go over to a Gosselin Love site. I’m so sick to my stomach reading what those “believers” think.
I hope they all get the pleasure of meeting their false idol someday. They “deserve” to be treated to her special type of kindness. They put the “Y” in “yahoos” and the ignorance is just mind blowing!! I know, I shouldn’t have gone there . . . I need to calm down and read some intelligent musings from our little family over here.
Can’t wait until Kate shows Jon his room…over the garage!
Moon,
I can’t wait to read your recap. Your recaps are always 100% better than the show.
I have a gut feeling, that this episode is going to be just more of Kate being mean to Jon and the kids. Kate is so cold and uncaring. I sure hope that Mady is not seen very much. That sweet child needs an intervention, and ASAP.
Let me guess about what the show will be like:
KAte will be exhaustified by all the work that needs to be done, and will therefore be on Jon’s case for not asking her how he can help her.
Cut to the kids running around and screaming, and for good measure they’ll put in a shot of Mady misbehaving and Kate blaming on blood sugar.
What you won’t see are the people who are actually packing and moving this household.
Cut to the couch where Queenie will tell all how horrendously horrendous it is to do all that work and take care of 8 – did you know they have 8? – kids. All have low blood sugar issues, too.
Please place my bet on first Meltdown at 2min 45 secs into the show.
Joanne~
Duly noted -
Does the first meltdown at 2min 45 sec include Kate?
Yes, it includes Kate. I’ll even go so far as to predict it WILL be KAte’s.
I’m that confident.
And since we know they have help (read: nanny), can someone tell me why that person wasn’t watching the kids last week if Kate needed to clean that fridge? Which leads me to the meltdown this week that Joanne has pegged: Is said meltdown necessary or is it good TV?
Because if the parents can prevent any meltdowns with good parenting techniques like a caregiver who engages and supervises the kids while a parent is busy, why wouldn’t they choose to do so?
No, class, don’t everyone answer at once. I know this is a “gimme” question!
Joanne~
Well you know how high class we are here at Musings – should you win, your prize choices include:
Heart Shaped Peeps
1/2 lb of Velveeta Processed Cheese Food
10 Brussel Sprouts – it would have been 11 but one has gone into the sprout protection program.
Good luck!
Anyone else that is interested in submitting your guess – the challenge is: How far into the show does the first meltdown occur!
The first meltdown will occur 1min and 30 sec into the show. I know it will involve Kate maybe Mady and Cara. If I win I want homemade organic old grandma soup.:-)
OH! I forgot it was on tonight. I can’t wait to see what Kate has to clean this time. Or maybe, if we’re lucky, she’ll show us how to put designer hand bags into cardboard cartons! There might be 15 minutes devoted to the finding and use of organic packaging tape or..dare I hope?..toothpicks digging in bathroom tile grouting! Oh, I am beside myself with anticipated glee as Kate completes her monumental tasks with 8 (count ‘em, 8!!) surly pesky kiddies underfoot! Super mom will be exhausted and who can blame her!? Why, I’d bet Kate will be asleep tonight before her pointy head hits her 15,000 thread count Egyptian cotton pillow case. And someone will poop. Tee hee! Golly, who pooped? Sniff it out Kate.
Giddy from the Heat~
For one, they want it to look like they have little help again, even though Jon Boy stated in Utah that they have a helper 4-6 (!) hours a day. Perhaps said helper was outside with the other kids while Kate lost the ones inside – someone had to watch them outside while Jon took care of the toileting needs of the children because, you know, their mother rather deal with (non-existent) mold rather than deal with her children full stop. TLC do want controversy which is, IMO more insidious than if they did not promote this.
Tanya~
I do apologize but the three prizes listed are the only being offered by Musings. I do hear though, the Queen of Cutting on the Diagonal is coming out with a (how not to cook) cookbook herself. Perhaps after a healthy love offering or two, she will allow you to buy it. If it doesn’t have her recipe for organic old grandma soup, fret not. By the end you will know, without a doubt, how to place a second piece of bread on a sandwich and at LEAST three variations on how to cut the bread.
Invaluable information if you ask me!
I thought the Velveeta had been won?
You have more??
Lisa~
I have connections……………….I always can source Velveeta (sssshhhhhhhhhhh).
I can’t wait to see your recap, as I am no longer watching the show..
Last night I was thinking..there is obvoiusly a lot of product placement that goes on during J&K+8, but do you ever think it will get to the point where any of the kids will actually be in a commerical? In that case they would actually be working and there would be laws, etc in place. I hope that never happens, because that would be crossing the line, but it wouldn’t shock me.
Good to know!!
Jenna~
I have written about this very thing – commercials. No they will not. To do so they would have to join the Union (AFTRA). If that happened, J&K would have to become a union show or J&K and the kids could not appear per union rules. So their choice would be do commercials and not the show, or the show and not commercials. THe show is not going to go union, and without the show no one would use them in commercials. That is why you see the product placement within the show and Kate not doing any TV commercials for her stint with Kmart. Obviously commercials would reach a much larger audience, but they can’t because of the union issues.
Oh, oh, I want to place my bet. The first meltdown will occur 2 min and 30 sec into the show. It will be either Kate, Mady or Alexis. I want the Brussel Sprouts. They are my favorite vegie.
When are the people at the Gosselin Love Site going to see Kate for what she really is? I usually don’t go there, but I get curious to see what the “groupies” are saying. Anyone that idolizes Kate needs to have their head examed. The comments are just unreal.
Don’t know if you saw this yet Moon…
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5627531.ece
Apparently the Kon plan for a lifetime of financial security has gotten at least one devotee
Toni~
Thank link did come it, but I appreciate your link as well
She is not going to get any deal from Oprah or GMA, IMO.
She will be lucky if she gets anything from a tabloid, which brings us back to the point of how she is going to support 14 children. This entire thing is a sad mess, and much of it has to do with the glorification of high order multiples via the media.
I loved the 3rd comment-just ignore her and she’ll go away! So perfect and so true!
I’ve read several articles about Kate lately (I think one was a link from here) and to read some of the comments is astounding. However, the negative seems to be outweighing the positive. I tenatively believe that this latest mom of HOM will be detrimental to Kate. It doesn’t help (at all!) that they are airing the footage of their new million-dollar home at the same time as all the public outcry and disgust of this new mother seeking fame and fortune. I don’t see how this can be anything but bad for Kate, the ultimate poster-child for “see how good you can have it if only you have lots of babies!”
I am saddened to see a few comments from teens saying they hope to take fertility drugs for HOM like Kate and become rich and famous. I’m not convinced that these are even real people posting those comments, but trolls trying to stir up controversy. If they are actually young girls looking up to Kate and wanting the fame from babies, it’s scary! We live in a celebrity-obsessed culture and it’s sickening how people might see this as her way in. I predict that it will ultimately bite this new mom of 8 (or 14!) as well as Kate in the ass!
Momto5~
Inre: to the postings on the one article thread – ABC News perhaps? – I too read those comments and my intuition screamed “troll”. That said, there IS a great deal of forums, etc, wherein women are buying chlomid and other fertility drugs online in hopes of having multiples. There are also a great deal of forums/groups (just look on Facebook) wherein high order multiples and Jon and Kate Plus Eight are “worshiped” by tweens, teenagers and young college women who think it is just “awesome” (there is a Kate word, lol) and would be “awesome” to have a large family just like Kate and Jon. They are not of the cognizant maturity to really understand the ramifications, financially, physically, socially and emotionally of HOM. They are too immature to look past all the “glam and glory” to understand what it truly takes to raise emotionally and physically healthy kids and they seem to totally skip past the part that HOM children oftentimes have medical issues their entire lives. They are blinded by all of the materialism and are too immature to see the entire – and REAL-picture.
I too feel that this case with Octup mom has opened eyes and person’s who may not of known about Jon and Kate Plus Eight, will now, and not in a good light. Tam just posted a link to Fox News with an interview of a fertility specialist. At the very end of the interview, he drives home the disturbing point of the glorification of HOM and getting a reality show out of it. In other words, HOM for “fun and profit”.
Lea~
I am not going to allow specific Gosselin related blogs to be named here at Musings. Feel free to say “supporters” or “fans” but naming specific blogs is not something that I want to encourage here.
Well, unless it is in two of my groups at Cafe Mom, both of which are debate groups, and both of which are equally represented and moderated very fairly, IMO. Also, neither of those groups will ever be named by a specific name, just Cafe Mom.
I do hope that you understand and please know that this is not me pointing a finger at you. I have been saying this for a long time now, and my sentiment will not change on this issue.
Don’t know if this was mentioned yet (haven’t read all the posts) but Kate will be on LARRY KING tonight!!
Too bad Joy Bahar isn’t hosting!!!
Don’t know if this is true or not, but I read on another site that Kate was going to be on Larry King Live tonite discussing the Octuplet mom, damn and I have to work, can someone post it on the web if this is true, I still don’t know how to work my DVR
I’m going to go out on a limb here and predict the first meltdown is shown in the teaser before the credits/intro to the show.
I don’t need the Velveeta prize; Lisa can have mine if I win.
Speaking of the octuplet mom; http://www.chicoer.com/news/national/ci_11610459
#13 Moon,
LOL I’m in tears right now!! By the way I didn’t realize that you need a second piece of bread to make a sandwich. Wow I learn something new everyday:-). Thanks for the info
Laurajean~
LARRY KING LIVE? Tell me it ain’t so, lol. Oh and good Lord WHY? With all of this controversy flying around about the Octup mom and her plea for a media deal, she would so better to keep her mouth shut, oh exploiter of 8 children.
Plus, is she in California now?!?!? I thought she was in Chicago? What is for sure, she hasn’t been home to take care of her kids in a long while.
I went to to a “love” site for the first time after last weeks show. Amost every post was about peoples posts on a “hate” site. What a waste of time. I really enjoy and respect everyone here Moon. I’m pretty shy so I mostly just read here. But I would like to get in on the contest ! How about 3min. 10sec. till Kate goes off. Thanks~
Please be sure to e-mail the questions that you want Larry King to ask his guest, Kate Gosselin.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/
Sometimes Larry King allows viewers to call the show. Should be an interesting night.
Giddy from the heat~
No so fast, we have sprouts and Peeps too!
mdsmom~
You are views are valuable and I am happy that you have passed the shy stage to contribute
Your contest entry duly noted!
I love me some PEEPS. Especially when they are a few days old. Yummers!
Giddy~
A few day old Peeps is the only way to go unless, of course, you are putting them in the microwave to watch them explode, then fresh is best
Moon~
Re: Young women wanting “large families”-In a way, that scares me because they are only seeing a small fraction of her life and it’s by no means great; However, in *most* relationships, barring this recent octuplet mom-it takes two people to have the babies and I’m betting that most males wouldn’t dream of rolling over ala Jon and letting their wives pursue HOM.
I’m telling you, this who new CA mom will come back to bite Kate. I literally laugh as she does these interviews being the voice of wisdom and reason. These interviews are leading her into the mainstream public spotlight and it will ultimately be her downfall. 1 million + TLC fans don’t equal shit when it comes to the taxpaying public. Most have the same views as her PA neighbors and will feel disgusted that she has and continues to use them for money.
http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/02/lkl-blog-exclusive-jon-kate-plus-8-commentary/
She’s so full of sh*t, me thinks someone is backpedaling.
….and I guarantee she didn’t write it, it’s much too well written to come from her ignorant little brain, the PR people sure are earning their keep these days.
Some of the comments on the LK site are pretty good!
http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/
on 02 Feb 2009 at 9:24 pm#25fxfanatic
Don’t know if this was mentioned yet (haven’t read all the posts) but Kate will be on LARRY KING tonight!!
Too bad Joy Bahar isn’t hosting!!!
That beeotch! Now I’ll have to wait to see the midnight epi in the morning. however, this could be SOOOOOOOO good (in a bad way for her, of course)! I’m surprised she didn’t realize Larry would conflict with the airtime of ‘ARE show’. Btw, isn’t she in Illinois today? Wonder if she’s solo +8?
Come on 9 o’clock!!
Tam~ And everyone!
I opened up a thread for Larry King – it is the new entry.
I wonder if the groundhog that nests on the back of her head saw its shadow today. Nah, her ego was in the way.
I See Stupid People~
I see I See Stupid People is BACK!
ROFL!
Dang folks I can’t get the all the posts with the links I have to keep going through…
My bet for 1st meltdown (that’s anybody’s meltdown, right?) would be at/around the 45 second mark.
And since we’re going to be tuned into Larry King @ 9 instead, may I propose a new contest?
HOW MANY TIMES WILL KATE SAY ‘UM’ IN HER INTERVIEW?
Suppose we need to know how long she’ll be on first though huh?
If her interview is 10 minutes or less, I say 76 ‘UMS’!
11-19 minutes-117
20+ minutes-159
Who’s in?
And btw, BIG, BIG mistake going on this Live show with the furor this Octopussy has created. She is SO gonna look like a FOOL!!
Yippee!!
Tam~
LOL! Please place this post in the Larry King thread I just opened so it doesn’t get lost!
I have to feed a hungry Scotsman, now. I will be back!
#27 Giddy from the Heat
“I don’t need the Velveeta prize; Lisa can have mine if I win.”
Never thought the words would come out of my mouth but~~
THANKS Giddy!!
Larry King is on at 9PM here, same time as J&K plus 8.
What to watch…what to watch!!!!!
Just thinking about that woman giving parenting advice makes me predict that I will have a meltdown before “But it’s ARE life” is said.
But I do believe I will skip the show and watch the Larry King interview. I heartily agree that the recaps are so much better than the show.
BTW, did ye celebrate Rabbie Burns Day in the Moon household? I got married in the Bard’s hometown. Not a haggis fan, I’m afraid. Unless, of course, it’s organic haggis
Oh, too bad we’re not all in the bar somewhere. Because I’d make a drinking game out of Tam’s “every time Kate says um.” Says “um,” take a shot.
Says “awesome,” take two shots.
Says “exhausted” or “exhausting,” down a whole beer.
Drunk on the hardwood floor in no time!
****And btw, BIG, BIG mistake going on this Live show with the furor this Octopussy has created. She is SO gonna look like a FOOL!!
Yippee!!****
I agree 100%.
It’s Schadenfreuden and I can’t help it!
I See Stupid People~
No Rabbie celebrations here this year
Oh, and for the record, haggis is as evil as Casey Anthony!
Queen of cutting on the diagonal is one of the best names for Kate yet. Thank you.
Anyone else notice the new stainless steel fridge?
So, if you know you’re getting a new fridge, why f*&king bother cleaning the old one? was that a camera guy’s idea?
“Ugh, Kate! You make my mouth water with all your rubbing and stroking. OOOh! yeah you tell that fridge it’s a dirty boy! Yea!
Now, scratch with a toothpick.. OOOOOOH. slower, slower. Ah yeah, that’s the stuf…”
I wonder.
I say 23 seconds and I’ll take the velveeta, please.
Moon,
I have a message for Kate,
Kate, next time you yell at Jon for not using a coupon, you might wanna take your Starbucks coffee cup ($5.00 for the Venti Size) and put it in the trash. Your coffee ate your coupon’s value. Moron.
I can’t believe she was ranting about coupons yet she is drinking $5.00 coffee. Admit it woman, you don’t use coupons anymore.
Looking forward to the recap and hearing all about the reunion with Beth, as well as friends and family who came over to help poor (did I say poor?), hapless “esthetically challenged” Kate decorate. At least that’s what I heard might happen from some other people
Was the part where Kate says “come in everyone in the world” or something, as creepy in the episode as it appeared in the commercial?
I’m sorry I couldn’t get in on the contest – I’d have taken the peeps but only if they were chocolate covered.
I’ve never seen a coupon for a hardware store and even Jon said something like he would never think about using a coupon in that kind of store. I think Kate is using the word coupon when she really means gift card. After all, those gift cards the fans send are free money.
Oh, you know I dislike defending Kate, but is it possible it’s the old fridge with new door panels?
Chrissy, me too…I’ve never seen a coupon for a hardward store even in the Sunday flyer, that whole scene was staged and K&J couldn’t keep from smiling.
I See, I’m with you on having to continue to watch until the house is decorated.
I know it would be difficult to have a “nice” house while you have so many small kids running around, but deliver me from a home as barren as the Gosselins’. The only things on the walls are pictures of themselves?
This new house calls for a lot of furniture on a large scale. The color scheme left behind is opposite of anything we saw at the old house. And nothing I’ve seen so far leads me to think Kate or Jon has the taste to create a warm, comfortable home. My money is on a professional decorator, which should make for some good episodes.
Do they make chocolate-covered Peeps? I think those sound WONDERFUL.
I figured it out. They bought the 1.3m house with all the money they’ve saved using coupons and having Jon pack them and do all the handyman work.
Haggis is what I want to name the next cat I get. Really.
The moving episode was amazing – I don’t think I’ve EVER seen her treat Jon more like a ten-year-old. And what’s with the paper towel extravaganza? I’m sure she gets them free, but…
Morning all,
Was on the Wernersville Forum (Topix) site. Seems ‘good Christian’ Jon has been hitting the bar scene in Berks where young teachers hang out. If true, what a joke. Ohhh Jonnnnn you’re just toooooo coooool. NOT! Maybe he thinks he can absorb brains by osmosis. Sorry Jon. That’s not the way it works.
Didn’t bother to watch the show-stopped months ago. Waiting for the recap. Far more truthful. And funny. And bittersweet.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/wernersville-pa/TOP45U6F50UULN3H7/p2
60Giddy from the Heat
Oh, you know I dislike defending Kate, but is it possible it’s the old fridge with new door panels?
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I seriously doubt ‘decorator Kate’ would know the first thing about that. It had to be new. The 4 pictures taped to the $$$$ fridge is tacky as fuck. (curious-did SHE have a coupon for the fridge?) I’m all for kid’s artwork but, for shit’s sake, get a bulletin board-I’m sure there’s PLENTY of wall space in the Pimp Palace. Was this a ‘diversionary tactic’ or an attempt to ‘draw the eye’ to the new fridge.
As far as the ‘coupon’ for the shower head, we occasionally get Lowe’s ‘Project Starter’ coupons-$10 off $50, $25 off $250. Not defending the bitch, but, that’s the only ’shower head’ coupon I can think of. I don’t know about any of you, but when we do shit around our house, we are at Lowe’s and Home Depot ALL THE TIME sometimes up to 3-4 times A DAY. I’m SURE the coupon coulda been used at another time seeing as new houses ALWAYS need something. You stupid bitch.
That was one clusterfuck of an UNORGANIZED move was it not? I thought she was an ‘expert’ at organization. Guess not.
Another thing that was ‘typical’…leaving the balled up paper towels on the floor of the ‘old’ house. Oh well, it’s to be expected from such an uncouth bitch. Aaaah the hypocrisy.
The Wernersville Hillbillies have ‘moved in’
http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/02/jon-kate-eight.html
Looks like the debate is reaching a different audience
Syl~
Thanks for the link and I just wanted to reiterate that this is rumor!
Moon,
Absolutely.
Any links I pass on are based on “let the buyer beware”. Just like the way viewers of KON + 8 have to be. LOL.
Moon,
Was not sure if this is the place to post this but someone else is over the KON
http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/02/jon-kate-eight.html
Sounds like last nights ep was a doozy!!
Tam
You crack me up! Love your “way with words”. hahaaha
Boy I love this site!!! PLEASE don’t ever take it away!
It totally makes my day everytime I come here and read all of the comments.
Moon~~
That’s ok. I actually forgot about that rule until I posted it.
Lea~
No worries
#72Sadie

Tam
You crack me up! Love your “way with words”. hahaaha
Boy I love this site!!! PLEASE don’t ever take it away!
It totally makes my day everytime I come here and read all of the comments
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I really try to temper my F-bombs, but sometimes there’s just no better substitute
I concur, life has been so much more enjoyable since finding this brilliant blog and all of its contributors. It’s nice to have to pull out the dictionary almost daily for all the new fancy words I’m learnin’
Thanks for ‘keepin’ it real’ for us Moon!
OMG – I just happened to stumble onto this site and thx you!! For some bizarre reason I thought I was the only one who could not stand Queenie!! I was trying to actually find and email address for TLC to drop them a line about how ridiculous they were for showing this crazy-ass show!! The hard times of an average family!! Thank you so much for showing me that I’m not the nutty one!!!
Jacque~
Welcome to Musings! Feel free to email TLC, but don’t be bummed when you receive the same canned form letter that they have been using for over a year regarding this show!