UPDATE II~ CNN and HLN Reporting Michael Jackson HAS Died. UPDATE: TMZ Jumped the Gun? ~ Michael Jackson in a Coma according to CNN and HLN
Jun 25th, 2009 by BohemianMoon
IT IS NOW CONFIRMED by CNN and HLN that Micheal HAS Died~ TMZ was correct when they reported it at 5:20 pm.
Godspeed, Michael!
TMZ must have jumped the gun as CNN and HLN are reporting he is now in a coma.
Original post:
FROM TMZ:
We’ve just learned Michael Jackson has died. He was 50.
Michael suffered a cardiac arrest earlier this afternoon at his Holmby Hills home and paramedics were unable to revive him. We’re told when paramedics arrived Jackson had no pulse and they never got a pulse back.
A source tells us Jackson was dead when paramedics arrived.
Once at the hospital, the staff tried to resuscitate him but he was completely unresponsive.
We’re told one of the staff members at Jackson’s home called 911.
La Toya ran in the hospital sobbing after Jackson was pronounced dead.
Michael is survived by three children: Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr., Paris Michael Katherine Jackson and Prince “Blanket” Michael Jackson II.
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-dies-death-dead-cardiac-arrest/

That’s strange…at 5:09 CST, HLN still has him as alive but in the hospital.
He is still alive according to CNN at 5:12……….
did TMZ jump the gun?
Lisa and everyone~
He is still alive according to CNN at 5:12……….
did TMZ jump the gun?
That is why I qualified it by saying “according to TMZ”. HLN and CNN are still reporting that he is in the hospital.
At 6:15 ABC news is reporting conflicting reports on Jackson. They now say he is in a coma.
Fixin to have a moving sale soon ad was going through my hundreds of cd’s today ad threw the “Thriller” cd in the sell pile. Better pull it out. Wow, he was younger than me. Maybe all that sugery did a number on his heart????
cj~
At 6:15 ABC news is reporting conflicting reports on Jackson. They now say he is in a coma.
So is HLN, so TMZ must have jumped the gun.
LA Times is reporting he is in a come
From Fox news
Sorry I meant coma ( not come)
Oh My God!
la times reporting he has died after being in coma. That was just reported on my local news station.
Heidi and everyone~
la times reporting he has died after being in coma. That was just reported on my local news station.
Yes, I just updated my entry. CNN and HLN are both reporting his death, so TMZ was correct after all.
I was a bit shocked myself. First Farrah now this. I loved him when I was in high school. I choose to remember him that way. Before all the surgery and scandal.
He is the poster child for what happens to kids in the spotlight.
And now at 6:30, Charlie Gibson is reorting that Jackson is dead. Maybe he’s really a cat with nine lives?
What a day.
#14Jeanna
What a day.
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You said it girlfriend!
MJ used to be a great performer & singer. … then he got really weird. Hope there are some normal people lined up to take care of his kids.
IMO, Thriller was his best performance.
I just got home from UCLA. My son’s special preschool is directly across the street from the hospital. When Boo and I walked out, we noticed a helicopter hovering over the hospital. As we were driving home, we heard it on the news
I’m so glad I made it out of there before they blocked it off or we would STILL be there……
Regardless of who he was or what he did or didn’t do, he is still a person, created by God/the universe and has seemingly lost his life
My prayers are with his family.
It’s so sad
(He’s number 3 (McMahon, Fawcett and now Jackson)
No matter what his problems, he was a true icon. This is a very sad day.
cj: I agree ,’Thriller’ was brilliant. I always thought he was a huge talent. Was sorry when things got odd with him, seemed he never could rebound from all the scandle. Maybe rightly so, IDK. Nevertheless, RIP.
MTV is showing Thriller videos………..
No matter all his many quirks, he was an unbelievably talented man. His music will be remembered forever. WOW
Its a sad strange day. NBC is saying he has passed. They said most of his brothers were with him in the hospital
emptynester~
No matter what his problems, he was a true icon. This is a very sad day.
I agree. And two icons in one day.
Wow.
Moon,
I am just shocked!! He was so young!!! He was a huge talent without question. I just never understood why he was so strange. I wonder what the cause of death really is – cardiac arrest in someone who’s only 50 seems a bit strange to me. I guess he had numerous health issues, but this just seems odd. I wonder if they will do an official autopsy. This is so sad. Farrah gone today, too. What a day! I bet Take will be appearing in her front yard in the NUDE tomorrow – she will have to escalate her attention-seeking behavior with all this news.
So sad. As a kid, I had a huge crush on him (pre-surgeries, of course). I remember when my dad used to rent the video, “The Making of Michael Jackson’s Thriller” for me every Friday night which was a huge treat considering VHS was rather new yet. I’m showing my age here (35)!
My sister and I used to do the “Thriller” dance and I was convinced that I’d marry him someday. I think he was my first celebrity crush as a kid. This is so sad…he was way too young.
ABC news just announce they will be having a special about MJ at 9, followed by on about Farah.
Just listened to “I’ll be there”, now I’m going to YTube to watch “Thriller”
He is 2 days older than I am kind of unsettling for that to happen. I remember him singing on the Ed Sullivan show when we were both 12. Very very sad he was talented for sure Blue.
oops, type too fast & don’t proofread, you make mistakes …
Announced and One instead of announce and on… duh.
Merette~
I am just shocked!! He was so young!!! He was a huge talent without question. I just never understood why he was so strange.
Majorly abusive childhood in addition to being a huge child star and, with his brothers, supported their family.
Jen, I know what you mean. He was our “Elvis” in a lot of ways. It’s like losing a piece of your youth. I went to school with a guy who used to wear one glove like Michael did. He wanted to be just like him.
It’s so tragic. I keep forgetting he has young children too. My prayers are really with his entire family now.
search for truth~
He is 2 days older than I am kind of unsettling for that to happen. I remember him singing on the Ed Sullivan show when we were both 12.
I am a bit younger than you, but I remember him singing on the Ed Sullivan Show as well
Thanks Lisa about MTV..
Look at that!! MTV the Music Television is playing videos! Wow!
Now I really really feel old. Gonna be dancing here in my pjs
I know we snark a lot about the Gosselin parents, but in a strange way there are some definite red flags about Michael Jackson’s upbringing (thrust into spotlight, pushed to perform by father, etc) that all parents should consider before allowing their children to perform or otherwise put them in the spotlight.
Everyone I’ve talked to this afternoon has commented on his wacky behavior later in life and they all say, “But he was such a cute kid”. In many ways, his story is a cautionary tale about putting kids in situations they should not be in and expecting too much of them. While he was clearly talented, he never had a childhood. Clearly, at some point, something cracked in MJ and I fear for all kids who have stage parents (ahem, Kate…) because no one knows how delicate the psyche is of kids who are pushed to be “on” all the time.
judy~
I keep forgetting he has young children too. My prayers are really with his entire family now.
Yes he does have young children, three. Prince Michael Jackson, 11, Paris Michael Katherine Jackson, 10 and Prince Michael Jackson II a/k/a Blanket Jackson, 6.
Darn, I am sitting here crying. I never thought I would be bothered like this.
Just watched Thriller on youtube with my “Halloween” obsessed son – He looooved it! I can’t believe I never thought to show him that video before….
So sad, those of us who grew up in the ’70’s lost three of our entertainment icons this week.
Oh…my…God….I am shocked and sad. I loved his GENIUS. And a genius he was. No one can compare to his musical talent and his gift for show. I remember having the Jackson 5 music going while I had my hairbrush as my microphone, dancing and singing in front of the mirror just like him. Years later, when Thriller came out, my very small kids and I would stand in front of the TV and we would all try and learn the ‘moves’. What wonderful memories I have of him. I know he went off the deep-end years ago but you can’t take away that music. He was extremely gifted.
I’m saying rest in peace for the second time today.
Rest in peace Micheal Jackson. Lord knows you deserve it.
Jen ~
You are sooooo right!
I am just DEVASTATED at this news.
Another angel in Heaven tonight – rest peacefully Michael.
Everyone, put on MTV, it’s all Michael Jackson old videos and concerts, awesome, and boy does it make me feel old, but still wantin’ to dance.
My daughter just got to see “Thriller” on our big TV – instead of YouTube – a family moment?
Michael, I liked you pre-Pepsi fire 1984, you got a bit strange after. Godspeed.
During my high school years (70’s), it was the Jackson Five. Years later, my oldest son loved him. He had a Michael Jackson doll with different outfits and different colored gloves to put on the doll’s one hand. He carried it around with him everywhere. Man, I have so many memories of him over so many years.
I hope it wasn’t an OD.
RIP Michael. Here is another fine example of how a parent (Joe Jackson) screwed up his kids life. His father made him practice from morning until night. There were many reports that he also beat the kids. Michael once said he remembered seeing some boys playing ball and just wishing he could be out there with them. When you look at his childhood and what he went through, it’s no wonder he had so many emotional issues. He really had no childhood. Sad.
For your listening and viewing pleasure:
Thriller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtyJbIOZjS8
That brought back some memories.
My husband told me the news just as I was putting my son down. No kidding, my first words to him were:”Fuck Off!”. Then I look at TMZ and it’s true!!
Now, I think he went off the deep end years ago his last good album was Thriller (this is a matter of taste and of course debatable).
My only other thought around this is perhaps this will finally get the paps off the G’s and they can really disapear. I hope so.
Anyway, i’m strangely sad.
I`m gonna rock with you..all niggghhhttt. Rock you in today…Gonna rock the nighhhtt away.
This just came into my head. There is no comparison but maybe a little bit for me.
I feel sort of the same way I felt in 1980 when I heard that John Lennon was killed.
I became a HUGE Beatles fan after that. I made my Dad buy me a copy of his album with Yoko. I played that over and over again.
I wonder if kids now are going to do the same thing with MJ?
SmallMedium,
My friend called me on the phone and told me. I told her to stop fucking with me. I am sick and not in the mood to be punked or hear a MJ joke.
I had to apologize.
#24 Merette
II wonder what the cause of death really is – cardiac arrest in someone who’s only 50 seems a bit strange to me.
Merette. This is not that uncommon at all.
My father died the same way when he was 49 and my beloved husband was only 39 when he died.
They bought died almost instantly and without any warning.
Both were in good health, but it was a hidden silent killer for both of them.
I still to this day , grieve for my husband. I never got to say goodbye or tell him how much I loved im.
Sadly, Michael died a freakish recluse, but I don’t think anybody can deny his talent and that he was a musical legend.
I can’t believe how sad I am to hear this news, maybe because I grew up with his music ?
This is just a weird week for deaths. I don’t even feel like turning on the news anymore. Sad.
I feel sad too.
Jen I think there is alot in what you said. Growing up I was a die hard Elvis Presley fan, still am. Our family has been to the mansion Graceland twice, once while he was alive and at home, later on after he was buried but before the inside of Graceland was open to the public. Sadly enough I remember he said his greatest wish was to be able to take Lisa Marie to the amusement park and nobody recognize who he was. If the participants are willing to deal with that loss of privacy well fine; to put someone in that position with no say so in matter really is not fair. Sadly the G children will not only have to deal with being a celebrity but also a divorce.
I’m hearing conflicting stories. Some are saying he was found not breathing and with no vital signs and others are saying he actually “collapsed”. They could point in 2 different directions, depending on which one is true. Collapsed-cardiac but found dead-OD.
#24 Merette
What a day! I bet Take will be appearing in her front yard in the NUDE tomorrow – she will have to escalate her attention-seeking behavior with all this news.
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Merette – first thing I thought too after the initial shock.
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#50 outofKONtrol
I can’t believe how sad I am to hear this news, maybe because I grew up with his music ?
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Same here. I remember roller skating in my best friend’s basement to Beat It when I was 11 or 12. I didn’t think it would effect me the way it is, but I’m just floored. I had completely forgotten he had small children until someone mentioned it on CNN or HLN, whatever channel we had on.
I am so stunned at Michael and Farrah’s passing. They are both such icons and were so blessed with the talent that God gave them.
They are safe now in the arms of an angel.
Sadness sometimes make you wonder why we waste so much of our time and energy on people like the Gosselin’s, but then we all know the real reason why.
Those little children with those adorable, sweet faces. That’s why. And we’ll keep it up until someone puts a stop to Kate and TLC exploiting those children.
I remember when the Jackson 5 became popular, little Michael was so cute and so talented. He grew into a nice looking young man, and it was sad to watch him mutliate himself over the years with one drastic plastic surgery after the next. You can only imagine the demons he must have been struggling with to do that to himself. Although he was never found guilty of the child molestation charges, I’ve always believed he did it based on his troubled childhood. A great talent haunted by his lost childhood. I hope Michael will find peace in the next life that he wasn’t able to find on this earth.
#49 Gram123
#24 Merette
II wonder what the cause of death really is – cardiac arrest in someone who’s only 50 seems a bit strange to me.
Merette. This is not that uncommon at all.
My father died the same way when he was 49 and my beloved husband was only 39 when he died.
They bought died almost instantly and without any warning.
Both were in good health, but it was a hidden silent killer for both of them.
I still to this day , grieve for my husband. I never got to say goodbye or tell him how much I loved im.
Gram123,
I am so sorry about your father and husband. That is so incredibly young! How can doctors know that we are not all ticking time bombs with hidden heart disease? I am in the Michael Jackson age range and I am in perfect health. I go to the doctor every year for a checkup. Does this still mean I could go at any time of cardiac arrest due to hidden heart disease? Last year, in June 2008, Tim Russert collapsed and died instantly of cardiac arrest. He was only 58 but had diabetes and was overweight, so it is a bit easier to grasp. His death was a horrible, heart-wrenching tragedy – just months before the election.
#54dee3
Dee, he’s gone. I’m devastated. I’m surprised at how I’m reacting to this actually. I’ve listened to his music since the beginning and I just can’t believe it. I was watching the special on MTV after I heard and I had to turn it off. I think with Farrah’s passing today also….well, you know.
Well, I’m pretty much done for today.
It almost seems like the timing of his death is karma. They’re talking about how he never had a childhood and how he supported his family. How Neverland was his attempt to re-make the childhood he never had. So coincidental, considering the big story in the tabloids regarding the Gosselin children.
I wonder if people discussing his lack of a childhood and remembering him will make them reflect a little more about these exploited children in reality series.
#55 Bella
“Same here. I remember roller skating in my best friend’s basement to Beat It when I was 11 or 12. I didn’t think it would effect me the way it is, but I’m just floored. ”
Did you have a big-handled comb in your back pocket while rollerskaing ? =}
We ( my sons and I ) are watching MTV now since it’s all MJ videos. It’s really hard to explain to my 11 yo ( my 4yo just keeps saying “it’s so sad”) what a LEGEND MJ was and how I LOVED his music growing up. I can’t explain it, but it’s a different and somehow more profound sad than what I felt when I heard about Farrah. Not to say that I’m not sad about Farrah, I absolutely am, I just feel differently about MJ’s passing. Maybe because music has such emotional attachment ?
Probably because we’d known Farrah had a terminal illness for some time and knew she would probably die soon whereas when a person suddenly dies and you’re not prepared for it, it’s a huge shock and a more emotional event.
#58Merette
How can doctors know that we are not all ticking time bombs with hidden heart disease? I am in the Michael Jackson age range and I am in perfect health. I go to the doctor every year for a checkup. Does this still mean I could go at any time of cardiac arrest due to hidden heart disease?
Merette, sadly, any of us could go at any time. We never have a choice of death or illness, but can only try to stay heathy.
I am 63 yrs old now , I was only 33 when he died. I have learned to live every day like it is my last. I never ever let a day go by that I don’t tell my husband, son and grandchilden, how much I love and cherish them.
A heart scan can usually detect these kinds of problems. My son, who is 40, just had one and he said it took less that 30 mins for the entire process. Thank God he was fine.
He says it is my turn now. That’s been a few months back and I still have’nt found the courage yet. I have a real fear of Drs. and hospitals.
but in a strange way there are some definite red flags about Michael Jackson’s upbringing (thrust into spotlight, pushed to perform by father, etc) that all parents should consider before allowing their children to perform or otherwise put them in the spotlight.
Worth Repeating!!
Isn’t it strange how this all comes around to what we talk about all day??
I’m in a bit of shock about Michael.
I just deleted a post because it’s “too soon.” However, I really want to say something but I’ll wait a few days. It isn’t nice. It’s Karma.
The man had talent.
I can remember me and my girlfriends climbing through the window of the International Amphitheater, sneaking in to see the Jackson 5. I lived 2 blocks away. We were caught an tossed out but I can remember how badly I wanted to see them.
Watching Keith Olberman on msnbc. Brian Oxman, Michael’s attorney said that Michael was into heavy self-medication with narcotics. Oxman made a comment that the Anna Nicole situation pales by comparison with Michael Jackson in terms of prescription drug taking and that the people around Michael were “enablers.” Also, apparently, according to Oxman, Michael has anorexia and this really put a terrible strain on his heart. Just reporting what Keith said.
As God as my witness, this morning I woke up and headed to the computer to see if Preesi’s scans were available ( they weren’t ). Then I thought, “Why am I so interested in this Jon and Kate crap?” I then had a very very VERY strong feeling that something would happen today that would take the media heat off the Gosselin’s for a while. Shortly after, Farrah died, and I thought, “This is it. The media will put their focus on her, where it should be”. Then, later in the day, Michael died. Whoa!
Things in Gosselinland should be very quiet for a while. If this Gosselin crap still takes front and center over two very talented superstars deaths, then I will have lost all faith in the world.
“Ben” — Just 2 days ago I was telling mini-Snark about the story of Willard, the rat named Ben and the song by Michael Jackson. Weird.
Pam,
Kate would have to strip down naked and dance Thriller in her driveway to make the papers right now.
She is probably pissed. She knows she is not going to make the cover of People next week.
It would be a bit of Karma if people in the news started comparing MJ childhood and the G Kids. Hmm? Maybe that is how she will get in the news.
#63 Gram123
#58 Merette
How can doctors know that we are not all ticking time bombs with hidden heart disease? I am in the Michael Jackson age range and I am in perfect health. I go to the doctor every year for a checkup. Does this still mean I could go at any time of cardiac arrest due to hidden heart disease?
Merette, sadly, any of us could go at any time. We never have a choice of death or illness, but can only try to stay heathy.
I am 63 yrs old now , I was only 33 when he died. I have learned to live every day like it is my last. I never ever let a day go by that I don’t tell my husband, son and grandchilden, how much I love and cherish them.
A heart scan can usually detect these kinds of problems. My son, who is 40, just had one and he said it took less that 30 mins for the entire process. Thank God he was fine.
He says it is my turn now. That’s been a few months back and I still have’nt found the courage yet. I have a real fear of Drs. and
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Gram123,
Thanks for your reply. I know you are right, but all this is very scary to me. I guess when you get to a certain age, you start having to face your own mortality. We realize we are no longer invincible and ultimately have a very real expiration date, if you will. You should follow your son’s advice and go for that scan. I’m sure your family and grandkids want you around for as long as they can possibly have you! If you were my mom, I’d make you go – but that’s how I am!
TVsnark~
“Ben” — Just 2 days ago I was telling mini-Snark about the story of Willard, the rat named Ben and the song by Michael Jackson. Weird.
I just played that for Web Boy about an hour ago and told him about the movie as well!
Whoa. Been under a rock with a huge project the past few days. I got the news of both Farrah and Michael Jackson’s death right here, just now. I knew Farrah was ill, but MJ? I’m with you, MonicaW42. No TV for a few days. I don’t even want to know the sordid details. I think I’ve had enough.
Anyone wanna come over and eat some ice cream and watch old Charlie’s Angels and MJ vids with me?
Stars die in “threes”; first, Ed McMahon – then dear Farrah – and now Michael so unexpectedly.
I grew up being a huge fan of the Osmonds and the Jackson Five.
And no matter what I think of Michael’s choices later in life, I will always remember him as a super-talented entertainer.
I am reminded of the first time that he did the “Moon Walk” on television and of reading that Gene Kelly called him afterwards to compliment him on that feat.
Michael was an INCREDIBLE performer and an INCREDIBLE entertainer.
I, too, choose to remember that about him.
P.S.: I am watching CNN coverage and someone just let it slip that he has been on dialysis? Wow.
I think Michael Jackson is a perfect example of what can happen to a child who is exploited by their parents. He carried his family financially from the time he was a kid. Many close to the family, say his father was brutal with his kids. He had such enormous talent, but was so very troubled. It’s a shame that his music will forever be overshadowed by his freaky behavior.
If you worked for People Magazine, who would you choose to be on next week’s cover? Farrah or Michael?
Makes me sick that tomorrow when I get my mag, Kate’s twaffle face will be on the cover while the world mournes two icons. My hope is that the world’s sadness about MJ and Farrah will make them take a harder look at these two twits of Wernersville and get angry. Really angry.
mourns
So sad. My heart goes out to him, as well as to his family. While he may have messed up later in life, he was and most definitely will remain, an icon.
His album Thriller was the largest selling album ever, to this day.
I just got home from picking up my son at his Grandma’s (where he spent the day playing with sand toys and in a kiddie pool…oh to be 2 again!) and on the radio they were playing song after song of Michael Jackson’s. When I heard “Thriller” i just about cried because I remember learning the whole dance, frame by frame, from the video when I was a kid and how much I loved that album.
MJ was strange…no doubt about it, and yes there are some questions about things about him that we can discuss another day, but I have to say that I am really sad about this. My 63 year-old dad called me to say how bummed out he was about his passing! He said he got hooked on MJ back when we were kids from us listening to him so much. I ALSO used to roller skate in my basement to MJ (and yes, sometimes with a big purple comb in the back pocket of my pink cords!) and those were some of the best and most carefree times of my life. Not a worry in the world and I could blast MJ all day if I wanted in my own personal “roller rink”.
Bummer of a day…I’m really in a funk.
Ben http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwAmpn8ISV0
I cried so hard. My dh looked at me and broke down to at the news of MJ. “You are Not Alone” was the song that was playing on the TV while we “celebrated” the first night of our honeymoon. I hear it now and just cry. His voice, his music, has been at every keystone moment of my life. I can remember “moonwalking” lol. I read it here and nodded at the fact that yes…MJ was OUR Elvis.
What is so odd, and so funny, is that I had been burnt out on the Gosselins. Someone on another board today basically said that the fascination with this is just people not having a life and meddling. Remembering MJ’s childhood…there is such a huge purpose. I told dh, MJ’s death has a purpose, whether it be remembering him as he was up till now, or more. He was always gracious and generous. Those children need a voice. MJ didn’t have his voice, or childhood, and it haunted him. No child should have to endure a lack of childhood. It just fortifies my resolve to fight for children that have no voice.
All of the greats in history have their skeletons. They are human. That does not take away from their talent or purpose. Michael Jackson is no exception. Rest In Peace, Michael.
Today two icons of my youth have passed. I loved the Jackson 5 when I was young along with the Donny and Marie, and though I was not a huge fan of Michael I respected his music in the 80’s. Farrah was the Angel I wanted to be quirky, down to earth, and beautiful inside and out. She graduated from the High School in Houston where most of my friends went to and was somewhat of a rival to my high school. It is like watching those things I held close in my youth fading deeper and deeper.
I remember going to the roller rink when I was in 2nd grade and Thriller was playing on the tv’s. We were all so excited! The funny thing is they played Thriller at our family reunion this weekend and we were all trying to remember the moves from the video. Even my mom remembered some of the video.
Also, I had (as did many of my female classmates did) a sticker of MJ on our CCD workbooks.
He will be missed. A great talent who is gone way too soon. I feel sad for his kids.
Was in the middle of posting 2-1/2 hours ago when a hellacious thunderstorm took our power and a few fairly large tree limbs down…
Man, what a day. As stated previously (and not to sound crass), but it’s a shame it has taken the deaths of 2 talented and highly beloved performers to displace old ‘Wonk & Spike’ from the headlines. I saw that Michael had to undergo a 4-1/2 hour physical prior to getting the go ahead for the 50 sold out shows in London. Not sure how long ago that took place, but wonder how any potential heart ailment could have been missed. I know it’s possible…but, figuring he’d have the best medical attention.
And yes, I still have my vinyl copy of ‘Thriller’.
Bummerville all the way today.
#78Pam
If you worked for People Magazine, who would you choose to be on next week’s cover? Farrah or Michael?
Since they both left the same day, it has to be both. Though with Michael’s career span being greater, the inside tribute will overshadow Farrah.
It makes me the saddest that Farrah finally said “yes” to marry Ryan, only to not live to make it a reality.
Michael …… I will always remember him as he was before the extended surgeries, making himself a Neverland, and all the eccentric behavior that followed. He was a King and will be held in the same esteem as Elvis.
And the ‘expoitation’ of Michael Jackson continued up until his death. Larry King Live just showed a photo-an ET exclusive-of Michael unconscious, being administered oxygen on the gurney on the way into the hospital. Not sure why we needed to see this.
It’s a mad mad world for sure.
#78 Pam:
People will put Farah on its weekly cover and devote an entire Special Edition to Michael.
As sad as I feel, I believe the MJ that I will remember died in a Pepsi ad gone wrong (circa 1984).
Now if Simon Lebon, or anyone else from Duran Duran, or Madonna passes away this week… my inner child will feel lost.
So, I figured out how Kate can get the attention back on her.
Doing the Thriller dance, naked, while wearing a Farrah wig and yelling “Wheeeeeere’s Jonny?”
OH, SNARK!!!! Thank you for the smile.
TV snark~
So, I figured out how Kate can get the attention back on her.
Doing the Thriller dance, naked, while wearing a Farrah wig and yelling “Wheeeeeere’s Jonny?”
BWAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
My daughter was just a baby whe I first saw The Jackson Five on American Bandstand and I believe that was their first national TV apperance. There was that little shit Michael upfront and center stealing the whole show from his brothers. My jaw hit the floor. I think he was about 10. What a talent. Raise your hand if you remember? If you do you’re as old as me LOL. Now, who remembers where they were when Elvis died?
I was with a boyfriend (from another High School) when Elvis died. I remember my mom picked me up (from a day of making out) and that’s when I heard it.
My parents once walked out of a Jackson Five show in Vegas. It was too loud for them!! (30 years ago).
#94 escrow mama
Now, who remembers where they were when Elvis died?
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Escrow Mama –
I was in my first apartment after leaving home. Heard on the radio that Elvis had died.
I was 6 and in grade school when JFK passed. Another teacher came in and told our teacher about it.
I was on a vacation in the Great Smoky Mountains with Mom (who was dying of cancer at the time) when Princess Diana died.
Michael’s death ranks right up there. I was at work surfing the news sites.
What a crazy time we are all living right now and I agree with most of the posts here. Michael Jackson was an absolute incredibly talented performer in his day and Farrah Fawcett was such an icon of her era. A very, very sad day indeed. I can’t help thinking that the timing of Michael’s death and the Gosselin saga is too coincidental to go unnoticed. Any normal person would pick up on the similarities of the childhoods of working with family AS CHILDREN, “overzealous” parents and no time to be a child. IMO, it is kind of scary that in some ways we see the end result of a previous child star who performed with his family. Scary indeed. Get it Kate, GET IT? Um, um, no.
TV Snark, I think I shat my pants with your last comment….guffaw.
#91 TVSnark
Love IT! I needed that smile. Thank you.
In our part of the Midwest we are also reeling from the senseless shooting death of a HS football coaching icon who was shot at a morning weight session by a former player. This is in a town where the HS has 200+ students and has produced 4 NFL players through this particular coach’s tenure. ESPN even did a segment on him and the tragedy last night. I think we are in the 3rd week of a full moon or something. Jeez. Good news would be a welcome relief right now. Peace and prayers to all who have lost loved ones lately.
I must say though Michael Jackson was viewed as a recluse and a bit odd I give him alot of credit. He went above and beyond to protect his children from the limelight. Did he go to far with the masks etc? Was that the opposite extreme and not healthy for them? Debateable. BUT he was trying to protect them. He goes down as a great man/dad for that reason and that reason only!! I admire him for protecting them. With the amount of crazed fans he had (both in love and hate) he wanted no one to harm his children and he did was he deemed necessary. If that meant covering his childrens faces at all times – Good for him.
You will be greatly missed! I hope the world focuses on the talent you had and that you are never referred to as Wacko Jacko again.
I hope you are FINALLY in Peace Michael.
My hubby called to tell me he had just heard the news and, honestly, I wasn’t surprised in the least. So, so sad, but really not surprising. Just looking at him, it has been obvious for some time that he has not been well.
Thriller was my first album ever. I used to play it over and over again on my Crayola record player. My friends and I learned the “Beat It” dance and even now, at 32, I can still remember the dance! I like to remember him as he was prior to all the plastic surgeries, etc. and from the Jackson 5, even though I wasn’t born when they were the Jackson 5!
And I agree that, sadly, he is a perfect example of what happens when you place the pressure of supporting your family on a young child. His is a tragic story.
Pippa
Day that EP died I was with my kids ad best friend ad her son and we were in a Kmart in San Bernardino, CA buying pool toys and the news was anounced like a blue light special. In 1988 I bought a pink Coupe de Ville just like Elvis bought for his mama ad drove that thing everyday for 10 years. Finally had to sell it for the $$. Only car I ever made money on! And what FUN!
JFK-I was 10 and home alone i my parents bed, sick with the measles and the news came on that our president had been shot. Remember black and white TV?
#102 escrow mama~
How bizarre!! My mom was home sick with measles on the day JFK was killed. She has said she can still see her grandmother sitting in her chair crying and watching the black and white tv.
on 26 Jun 2009 at 2:55 am #102 escrow mama
Remember black and white TV?
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Remember black and white TV?!!!! Heck – I remember watching JFK’s funeral on a black and white TV! We were out of school for Thanksgiving holiday. I remember trying to mimic the Catholics crossing themselves at his funeral and my Mom telling me that I shouldn’t because we were Baptists and we just didn’t do that.
#102 escrow mama
Yes, I remember black and white TV with NO remote. You changed channels by turning a really big dial to get one of maybe 5-7 stations if you were lucky. Ahh, the good ole’ days!
I’m sorry for another post – and I certainly don’t mean to be an attention “hog” (ahem) tonight . . . but an interesting tidbit about Michael from my local news reports today.
I have lived in or around the B’ham AL area for approximately 30 years.
In 1984, Michael and his brothers rented out our B’ham/Jefferson Civic Center for about 6 weeks to rehearse for their world famous Victory Tour.
While in town, it was reported quite often that Michael hit local suburbs on a number of occasions to pass out literature about his Jehovah Witnesses faith.
There is really nothing to add to that, except that yes – exploitation DOES take its’ toll, it seems.
#102 escrow mama
“JFK-I was 10 and home alone i my parents bed, sick with the measles and the news came on that our president had been shot. Remember black and white TV?”
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I was in the third grade and was home for lunch (school was right across the street). My mom had made us fried baloney sandwiches for lunch (a very special treat!) and then we were watching the Grand Prize Game on Bozo’s Circus on local station channel 9. At about 10 to 1, as we were getting ready to walk back to school, the announcer on the black and white TV came on and said that the president had been shot in Dallas. At about 1:20, our teacher got called out of the room and five minutes later came back in to tell us that President Kennedy had died. They sent us all home (we were all neighborhood kids). I remember those days vividly. I will never forget that day. And it’s been almost 46 years ago!
I think when Elvis died I was at work. First real job in the mail room at an insurance company, my girlfriends mother helped me get an interview. I did not get the news until I got home . My dads sister was visiting with us for a few days, during that time. She did not really approve of Elvis, (he danced) LOL even though I had almost every record and a drawer full of his memorabilia. I went to his concert in Cincinnati the evening one and after I got the tickets that sold out almost immediately they announced a second showing the afternoon. He ripped his jump suit LOL and the papers told of how he had a local lady sew them up.
I was 5 when JFK was shot and back then we had 3 TV channels ABC, CBS, NBC and it was all over the news. We had no TV except that for days. Back them the news people got stories right and were not afraid to tear up when they gave the news. I have been a big fan of him since, his legacy and more specifically his speeches. I know he had a speech writer but he also had a tremendous ability to speak, and was a hope for many young Americans. His death now looking back seemed to set the stage for the troubled 60’s, as many more would die. I remember seeing the war in Vietnam with Walter Chronkite doing the news for that and the space race later that decade as well. I also remember TV Guides and how we looked forward to the yearly showing of the Wizard of Oz. I can also remeber Rex Humbard who preached Elvis’ funeral and the Billy Graham Crusades on TV. I remember when RFK and George Wallace were shot, not so much for some reason when MLK was though. For a young guy the 60’s seemed to be a scary decade. I watched a black and white TV downstairs as the astronauts first landed on the moon, and with a lot of worry and concern asked my dad when Apollo13 had its problems, if he thought they would make it home, he said “it doesn’t look good”. I wanted to be a pilot, astronaut, I didn’t make that but helped my son realize that pilot dream for himself. I remember taking my telescope to my grandmothers in the early 70’s, and how she did not believe we went to the moon. I loved disco LOL, that beat but moreover it seemed to me that we had achieved the ability to look beyond the color of a man, maybe the prejudice of the 60’s was gone forever. KC was as popular as Earth, Wind and Fire in fact I never thought of them as white or black, that didn’t matter.
Well you didn’t ask for all this but in memory of MJ I wanted to give the Musers song lyrics Elvis used in a speech.
“Without a song, the day would never end.
Without a song the road would never bend.
When things go wrong, a man ain’t got a friend
Without a song.”
#61outofKONtrol
#55 Bella
“Same here. I remember roller skating in my best friend’s basement to Beat It when I was 11 or 12. I didn’t think it would effect me the way it is, but I’m just floored. ”
Did you have a big-handled comb in your back pocket while rollerskating ? =}
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I DID!!!!! with my (real) name on it of course… we thought we were so cool. After the skates came off we’d practice our moon walk. And more than likely watch Charlie’s Angels and practice our gun stance… not to be too melancholy (or OT), but there’s something about those years – preteen I guess you’d call it – when everything was an adventure, carefree, fearless, no worries… I miss that…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZRyendfZbI&feature=related
Here it is sorry for the long post. Maybe we could do a thread on do you remember when, except for the much younger Moon LOL
I’ve been glued to the tv all night – really can’t seem to wrap my head around this.
Anyway, Anderson Cooper had a guest , can’t remember his name, but he is/was part of MJ’s legal team. There were SO MANY things he said that could be said of the Gosselin children:
- protecting is very different than “shielding”
- despite all the adoring fans, Michael was VERY LONELY, VERY SAD
- Michael never had much of a connection to the outside world or adults, only to children because he didn’t have a childhood
- had no idea about his finances
It really was eery to hear these things because it really sounded like a legal rep for the Gosselins in 20 years.
Joe Jackson, hope you sleep well tonight.
sorry, meant EERIE
Kate is caught in yet another “fabrication” http://www.canada.com/life/food/Kate+divorce+typical+parents+multiples/1728200/story.html
I was down the basement with my mom while she was doing laundry listening to my dads little transistor radio with an earplug when I heard about JFK. I said to my mom “the president’s been shot.” she told me to stop, it wasn’t nice to say that. I told her that’s what the man on the radio said. I remember her running upstairs, turning on the tv, and breaking down in tears. I also remember we all watched the funeral on B&W TV. The one with the big channel dial that we would turn with our toes as we laid and watched Saturday morning cartoons. (Especially the Beatles cartoons.)
I was at work at Eastman Kodak when I heard Elvis died. All the older women were crying. I was young at the time, 19, and I can remember that I really didn’t understand what all the fuss was about. I wasn’t a fan and I guess never paid attention to how iconic Elvis really was.
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ITA. However, the G’s will NEVER EVER attain the “celebrity” that Michael had. Furthermore, he had an unbelievable talent and they have NONE.
#106 Pippa
You just answered my thoughts………I was wondering if he was a christian, saddened to hear he wasn’t. I am saddened also that he is here no longer but I don’t think he was truly very happy here at all. No one knows what takes place after death between us and God, perhaps Michael is in a happier place and we should be rejoicing!
I had commented a few weeks back after viewing a pic of Michael with his two older kids posted on JustJared I believe that it was the first time, at least that I could recall, that I saw Micheals kids in public and how Kate should take lessons from Michael on keeping the kids out of the limelight. I too loved him when he was a boy, was in high school when thriller was released and all the girls were swooning over him, but then he started to go down hill.
Very very sad. I think alot of his weird actions were brought on by an exploited childhood, if you can even call it childhood and if I wore a hat I would say “Hats off to Michael Jackson for protecting your own children from the spotlight!”
May you rest in peace Micheal and find some much needed compassion and unconditional love.
#89Tam
And the ‘expoitation’ of Michael Jackson continued up until his death. Larry King Live just showed a photo-an ET exclusive-of Michael unconscious, being administered oxygen on the gurney on the way into the hospital. Not sure why we needed to see this.
One of the other news channels had video footage (I think) of MJ being loaded into the ambulance. It happened with Heath Ledger, too. Ghouls. I’m not sure why they consider that “news” that needs to be televised. We don’t need to pretend death doesn’t happen, but this is going to the opposite extreme.
MJ was an odd person in recent years, but he had a whole lot of talent.
#94 escrow mama
Now, who remembers where they were when Elvis died?
I missed JFK, and was only 5 when Elvis died, so that didn’t register. But I do remember both Shuttle disasters, and Princess Di. When Challenger blew up, I was in Junior High. We didn’t get to watch the launch, but the grade school kids did. I heard about it on the bus ride home from a grade schooler, and thought he/she was just confusing all the flames and smoke of the launch with an explosion. (Not sure why the teachers didn’t tell us at some point, unless they did and I missed it somehow.)
Columbia disintegrated on a Saturday morning. DH was watching the news when I walked in for breakfast, and told me what had happened. We watched the news the rest of the morning. (And I wonder if NASA has considered just taking a week off in Jan/Feb, since that’s when all their disasters have happened.)
Princess Di, I think I heard the news late on a weekend night. I was at my parents’ home, so there wasn’t any cable, just the Big 3 to watch.
Don’t remember when I learned that Ronald Reagan was dead, but I remember watching the funeral coverage on TV. He had horses, which got him brownie points in my book.
There are a couple of others I remember hearing about: Chris LeDoux, Keith Whitley, James Doohan, Gene Roddenberry, James Herriott, & Louis L’Amour come to mind. My car got rear-ended the day Chris LeDoux died (bumper #3).
I first became aware of Michael Jackson with the release of his “Ben” song. I thought at the time how very talented he was. MJ went on to do excellent work. So sad. History will tell how another child’s life was so dramatic/affected by the spotlight. Rest in peace Michael.
I was in 5th grade gym class when we were told about the JFK assassination.
I also roller skated in the basement (the old metal roller skates with the key) BUT…..I listened to Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons.
However, years later, at high school dances, we danced to MJ’s ABC, I want you back and I’ll be there.
Michael Jackson’s dad screwed his head up for LIFE…the guy never thought he was good enough. It’s just sad.
I’m shocked that MJ has passed away. Last night Mtv was on and I heard billy jean. I was like what is mtv doing playing old Mj videos? Mtv never plays videos anymore. My husband went into the living room and their it was MJ passed away. Even though he was screwed up because of good old joe. He still was a great performer, singer and dancer. My daughter and I danced to thriller one more time. I taught her the zombie dance. We laugh and had fun. RIP M.J king of POP.. ABC…
#19 – Ooops! *scandal
I was at my friends house playing and she asked me if I knew that Elvis had died. Here is the sad part..I had no idea who Elvis was. I was very young and my siblings listened to rock music so it was not something I listened to.
When Lennon died, I heard about it on the playground at school before the bell rang to go in for the morning. I knew who he was.
I will remember the day I heard MJ died was my friend called me and I thought she was punking me. Then I had to apologize because she was right.
ROFL Snark! Kate is a royal boob.
When Elvis died in 1977 I was only about 3.5 years old, but I vividly, for some reason, remember my friend saying in my mom’s car on the way to preschool that “Elvis is my idol” and I had no idea who Elvis was or what “idol” meant. I doubt she did either and probably just repeated something her mom or dad had said, but that day is vividly burned into my memory for some reason. I had no attachment at all to Elvis at nearly 4 years old, obviously, but it’s just strange that I would remember that. I also remember the day President Reagan was shot in 1981 (I was at dance class and a girl named Jodi told me about it) and my dad and I listened to the news in the car on the way home. So strange how some events make such an impression.
According to TMZ, family members believe Jackson died of an overdose of Demerol. The doctor who had been living at Jackson’s home and gave him the injection is MIA.
From TMZ:
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A close member of Michael Jackson’s family has told us Jackson received a daily injection of a synthetic narcotic similar to morphine — Demerol — and yesterday he received a shot at 11:30 AM.
Family members are saying the dosage was “too much” and that’s what caused his death.
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We’ve learned law enforcement is looking for a doctor who lived at Michael Jackson’s home — and the doctor is nowhere to be found.
Law enforcement sources tell us a BMW belonging to the doctor was towed from Jackson’s home last night.
Cops are looking to interview the doc.
A law enforcement source says the doctor gave Jackson an injection before he died.
Jackson reportedly may have OD’d on Demerol. As we first reported, family members were concerned that Jackson was taking too much morphine.
I was not born yet when Kennedy died. My catholic Grandmother, up until the day she died, kept a small area with Kennedy stuff up on her wall. I was eleven when Elvis died and we were on family vacation overseas. It was amazing how popular he was out of the U.S.
Michael started life as a beautiful child. At the hand of a brutal and controlling father, who deemed abuse an appropriate means to gain submission, he was forced into preformances and over-exposure, to the media and masses, for years.
A beautiful child, a troubled and fearful teen became a disturbed man. All his fortune, fame and talent offered him no comfort or cure.
Michal’s passing may bring him the peace and joy he so desperately sought in life, but perhaps his passing can teach a greater lesson to those still alive and forcing their beautiful children to be over exposed and abused by the hand of a controlling parent.
One can only hope that the end of one beautiful childs sad journey could help others before it’s too late.
May Michael find beyond this life what he never found within it…
#125 Gator
According to TMZ, family members believe Jackson died of an overdose of Demerol. The doctor who had been living at Jackson’s home and gave him the injection is MIA.
Gator,
I bet they are right.
#127 Nina,
Amen. And yes the correlation to the Gosselin’s is SO apparent it breaks my heart.
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My thoughts:
I adored Michael Jackson as a teen (he’s only 3 years older than me!) and loved his performances and songs, of course it was not until years later that the truth of his upbringing and the stressors involved.
As you said he was a beautiful (and talented) child who became warped under so much….and the poor man never seemed to happy within his own skin. Though he brought so much joy to others, he himself lived with a shadow over him.
I intend to remember the vibrant young man who was ever so confident and empowered through his talents.
Again the lesson is that fame and fortune again do not equate to happiness…. I hope he is finally at peace within himself.
A close member of Michael Jackson’s family has told us Jackson received a daily injection of a synthetic narcotic similar to morphine — Demerol — and yesterday he received a shot at 11:30 AM.
Family members are saying the dosage was “too much” and that’s what caused his death.
It seems odd that he would OD on something he was getting daily…..that it was not the first time he’d gotten demerol. Plus, it appears that he was definitely not opiate-naive. Also, if this doctor lived with him and knew he took lots of opiates, I can’t believe he didn’t keep narcan in the house. The greater likelihood would be that MJ had taken opiates and/or benzos, without the doctor’s knowledge prior to getting the demerol injection. Not likely a doctor would give a fatal dose.
A large percentage of opiate OD’s are caused by the person taking benzos (benzodiazepines) in addition to/with opiates. Opiate/benzo combos can be a very deadly combination.
If it was an opiate OD, I wouldn’t be surprised if they also find benzos, probably xanax, when they do the toxicology studies.
Yesterday I got in the car to go meet some friends for dinner and threw in a remastered Thriller CD. When I got out of the car to walk in to the restaurant, a friend called to tell me what had happened. My knees literally buckled.
I am so stunned by this. Maybe it’s because major milestones in my childhood involved Michael Jackson. Thriller was my first tape. I learned to do the Thriller dance in my friends basement. I remember watching Motown 25 and screaming when he did the moonwalk for the first time. I got a make your own glitter glove for my 9th birthday. I was obsessed with We Are the World.
I feel like I just lost part of my childhood with Farrah and MJ. I wish both their families peace. In addition, I going to pray for the health and wellbeing of Linda Carter. If something happens to Wonder Woman right now, I’ll need to be committed.
There’s a good chance Debbie Rowe will get custody of her kids.
From TMZ:
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Debbie Rowe is poised to take full custody of the two children she bore for Michael Jackson.
It has been widely reported Debbie Rowe gave up her parental rights to Paris and Michael Jr. That is not true.
During the custody fight that Rowe had with Jackson in 2005, she attempted to give up her parental rights, saying Michael was the greatest father ever. Retired Judge Stephen Lachs, who presided over the hearing, initially ruled her rights were terminated … but then Lachs reversed his decision.
Here’s what happened. We spoke with Lance Spiegel, the lawyer who repped Jackson at the time. Spiegel says under the law, the Department of Children and Family Services must conduct a parental fitness investigation before parental rights are terminated and that didn’t happen with Rowe.
So Rowe has never given up any of her parental rights. As a result, under California law, Rowe is now presumed to be the person who will get custody. The only way Rowe can be denied custody is if a court determines it would be “detrimental to the children.”
As for whether Rowe will ask for custody …. our sources say you can bet on it. We’re told if Rowe gets custody she will get “a huge amount of child support from Jackson’s estate.”
I am surprised that someone who was reportedly so dependent on opiates, and with a doctor living in the house, that Narcan wasn’t used. It will counter the effects of an opioid overdose.
Does everyone remember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o
MSNBC just announced they plan to do a new tribute tomorrow.
I’ve been watching the news reports most of the day. Apparently, they found injectable lidocaine (empty) do it sounds like the doctor tried to code MJ himself but there was no response so they called 911.
They are saying that this doctor was the only one at the house with MJ when this happened but the 911 call was made by a 2nd person and you could hear the doctor answering questions in the background. How much time did it take to get that second person there? I’m a bit suspicious regarding how long this doctor tried to resuscitate him before he finally called 911…because MJ had totally flat-lined when they got there.
One of the doctors they were interviewing said that he couldn’t understand why this doctor hadn’t had resuscitation equipment there (defibrillator, etc) since he lived with MJ and knew he took a lot of opiates. He didn’t mention narcan but I agree that I can’t believe the doctor hadn’t had narcan available at the house. They were also saying that in addition to pain meds, he was also taking zoloft and xanax.
#115 emptynester
“ITA. However, the G’s will NEVER EVER attain the “celebrity” that Michael had. Furthermore, he had an unbelievable talent and they have NONE”
Oh, LORDY BEE, I would never try to imply that KON have ANY talent whatsoever !!
I know KON and the kids aren’t at the level of stardom of MJ, nowhere near, and never will be. I was just commenting that, just at face value alone, the G kiddos are being forced down that same destructive path as MJ was by his dad.
#131 Alanna
“I was obsessed with We Are the World. ”
Still love the song and the videoo. The 25th Anniversary was a few years ago, I bought the DVD and now my kids know who each and every singer is. To this day, the song gives me chills and also makes me teary eyed.
One question that has never been answered : why the HE** is Dan Akyroyd involved ?!?!
#137outofKONtrol
One question that has never been answered : why the HE** is Dan Akyroyd involved ?!?!
He was a BLUES BROTHER and was GRAMMY nominated one year for the Blues and Soul category.
OutofKONtrol
No clue about Dan and a few of the others for that matter. My friends still laugh at me because I insist that they take leftovers because there are starving children in Africa.
#138 Jeanna
“He was a BLUES BROTHER and was GRAMMY nominated one year for the Blues and Soul category.”
Did Dan really sing in the movie ? I’ve just always wondered why he was there when there were so many other REAL singers that probably would have jumped at the chance to participate…. He looks so out of place standing next to Harry Belafonte, one of the Pointer Sisters, etc…
I just always remember Cindy Lauper’s scream!!
#140outofKONtrol
Yep, they had a whole band. Paul Sheafer (Lettterman) was one of the members. They did their act on SNL and not just as a skit.
Akyroyd was probably there because their movie was a just a few years before. I know Belushi had just died (maybe a year before) by the time the song (WATW) was recorded.
They are reporting on ET now that he had cardiac arrest shortly after taking more than prescribed amt. of Demerol. But, what did he take before that. Liza Minelli went on record today as saying, something to the effect she was glad he was being mourned now, as once the autopsy results are released, all hell will break loose.
104Pippa
on 26 Jun 2009 at 2:55 am #102 escrow mama
Remember black and white TV?
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Remember black and white TV?!!!! Heck – I remember watching JFK’s funeral on a black and white TV! We were out of school for Thanksgiving holiday. I remember trying to mimic the Catholics crossing themselves at his funeral and my Mom telling me that I shouldn’t because we were Baptists and we just didn’t do that.
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I thought maybe I’d be the only one that remembered JFK’s death. I was standing in the back yard w/my mom, talking to a neighbor and was just popping in for lunch between classes at college (I lived right behind the college) and the housekeeper next door came out and told us he had been shot. We were like, she’s confused, right??? We went in and watched on blk and white of course, for 2-3 days straight it seemed like, and I will never forget little John-John saluting his dad casket, OMG, cried and cried like a baby. When EP died, I was married w/3 babies and was unpacking having just moved to VA from TX. For some reason, even though he was “my era” I wasn’t as torn up as I thought I should be. I also remember RFK and MLK. My hubs (ex) was interviewing after grad school for jobs and I had accompanied him on interview to Baton Rouge. MLK had just been shot. As we were returning from BR, as we flew over DC pilot tilted the plane, so we could see our nation’s capital on fire, from all the protests, demonstations and out of control looting and setting fires….that freaked me out.
A very touching article by Lisa Marie Presley:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/26/jackson.presley.blog/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
Linda, Pippa –
I was in 8th grade science class when JFK was killed and they dismissed school. I remember some kids on the bus yucking it up because we were being released early and the bus driver pulling over and telling them to grow up and show some respect. I remember the B&W tv broadcasts about the story and his life, LBJ’s swearing in on Air Force One with Jackie O standing there with her bloody suit still on. The style of the suit and it’s fabric is etched in my mind for some reason – along with her pill-box hat. I saved my babysitting money and bought a commemorative book about the story. I remember where I was when MLK was killed and the quiet and shock. And the Ted Kennedy’s scandal, Patty Heart’s shocking story.
Gosh, I loved being a kid with no responsibilities, worries, or a bad back. How much simpler life was then — or was it? I don’t know because I was a kid, but I sure ‘think’ it was less complicated. Technology is great – without it we wouldn’t be communicating, but I feel like it’s brought so much intensity and ‘noise’ to everyday life.
Ahhhh, the good ole days. I’m so glad to know y’all experienced those times, too.
dee3
I’ve been watching the news reports most of the day. Apparently, they found injectable lidocaine (empty) do it sounds like the doctor tried to code MJ himself but there was no response so they called 911.
They are saying that this doctor was the only one at the house with MJ when this happened but the 911 call was made by a 2nd person and you could hear the doctor answering questions in the background. How much time did it take to get that second person there? I’m a bit suspicious regarding how long this doctor tried to resuscitate him before he finally called 911…because MJ had totally flat-lined when they got there.
One of the doctors they were interviewing said that he couldn’t understand why this doctor hadn’t had resuscitation equipment there (defibrillator, etc) since he lived with MJ and knew he took a lot of opiates. He didn’t mention narcan but I agree that I can’t believe the doctor hadn’t had narcan available at the house. They were also saying that in addition to pain meds, he was also taking zoloft and xanax.
Did you also hear that the episode happened at around 10:30, but the call didn’t go out till around noon? And, that they called LaToya in Las Vegas and she was able to make it to the hospital in LA very soon after he arrived — it takes more than 30 minutes to get from LV to LA. This same report said that when paramedics got to the house the body was already cold and they wanted to take him directly to the morgue, but the private doctor said no – to take him to the hospital and keep trying? This same Cardiologist who’d been hired to be with MJ, performed CPR on the bed and not the floor — not proper procedure!
It reminds me so much of the deaths of Elvis and Anna Nicole.
His death is so sad and an absolute tragedy that his life ended so soon, but what’s even sadder is thinking of his tormented and abusive and confused/conflicted life. I hope the rumors we’re hearing are wrong, but I have an unsettled feeling that they might not be and that this story and that of his tangled finances and child custody issues will drag on for many years.
My nephew and niece are in their mid to late twenties. I tried to explain Jackson’s impact on pop culture. “Thriller” was an absolute monster at the time, a phenomenon. I don’t believe we’ll see anything like this in our lifetime, especially with reality TV being part of the cultural landscape. Back then people became superstars out of sheer talent, not blog hits.
Last I heard the police seized the doctor’s car and were searching it for “evidence”. He’s now being sought by the cops. Unusual for a personal physician not to remain on the scene, don’t you think?
It reminds me so much of the deaths of Elvis and Anna Nicole.
Steph, yes, I did hear on the 911 tapes that they were apparently doing CPR while MJ was still on the bed. Any medical professional would know he should have been on either a body board or on the floor. What I also find odd is that this doctor was apparently a cardiologist, since it doesn’t sound like MJ had any significant cardiac problems. It sounds to me like MJ found himself a “doctor feel-good” and he just happened to be a cardiologist.
What I can’t understand about these situations is that the pharmacy is supposed to catch over-prescribing by doctors. If a doctor is prescribing way too many controlled substances, especially for the same patient, it’s supposed to send up red flags. The thing is, I’m not entirely sure what they are supposed to subsequently do….who they are supposed to report it to, etc. In the Anna Nicole and Elvis cases, they implicate specific doctors but never mention any specific pharmacies/pharmacists.
Apparently, MJ had been sued by a pharmacy for non-payment of a $100,00 bill for pharmaceuticals. They are making an issue of this on the news but the reality is that it is possible that this may not have all been for opiates, etc. MJ tended to use odd medical treatments like that hyperbaric oxygen chamber so I could see him using something like, say, human growth hormone, to try and slow down the aging process…..and this could have cost a small fortune.
I have a hard time believing that the pharmacy would have sued for that high a bill in opiates/benzos because they would not have wanted to draw attention to that…since they would have had some liability in red-flagging it….and probably reporting it. I’m suspecting that the high bill was for some other sort of pharmaceutical….but I may end up being surprised.
I felt almost certain that this was an OD from the beginning and also that it will be an opiate/benzo combo that’s responsible when the toxicology results come back. There were just SO many red flags indicating that he’d become an addict in recent years.
Steph, sounds like you’re just a little younger than me. I remember seeing “Ben” on a date at the drive-in movies. Do you remember going to the drive-in on dates?
The live in doctor was provided by the promotor of his up coming concerts AEG. Probably to keep Michael “happy” so he would show up for his scheduled dates since he was notoriously unreliable. This doctor also sent a letter to his patients 11 days ago saying he was leaving his practice.
The article in “People” (I know) and the quotes from a fan who won a chance to attend the rehearsals is particularly chilling. This was 3 days before his death.
It should have been the opportunity of a lifetime for a Michael Jackson fan: a behind-the-scenes invitation to a rehearsal for the superstar’s upcoming concert tour in the United Kingdom.
But when the fan got to the stage, she was horrified. “He is a skeleton,” she wrote Monday in an email to other Jackson fans. Worse, she said, was seeing her idol surrounded by people she deemed too frightened to say anything. “I have to say: He may die.”
“We all love Michael really much. We all want to see his shows. We all think about how we will be [in the] first row,” the fan wrote earlier in the week. “How will you do all of these things if during the third concert he faints on stage, and if his heart stops during his way to the hospital? How will you feel when you will talk with other fans and will say: We knew he was too skinny to perform?”,
There’s a story on Yahoo News today with comments from people who had watched Michael practicing during the time leading up to his death. They all say he was energetic, very involved in the production’s details, showing up 4-5 times a week. Here’s an excerpt of one account:
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“Ken Ehrlich, executive producer of Grammy Awards, said he met Jackson there on Wednesday for a business meeting and spoke to him for about 20 minutes before Jackson invited him to watch him rehearse.
Ehrlich, who has known Jackson for years, said he was amazed by the singer’s vitality and focus as he practiced moves with backup dancers and a handful of choreographers.
The choreographers walked him through moves and gave him stage directions. They also introduced him to some new props and appeared to be working with Jackson to incorporate them into the show.
“Michael was digesting it all. He was learning, but even with that, there were times during the songs where his singing was full out,” Ehrlich said. “I would watch him move across the floor like the Michael of old. I was convinced (the comeback) was going to be the Michael of old.”
Ehrlich said he left after watching Jackson work through five or six numbers, but got chills from watching him — a memory that seems especially precious now. The star showed no signs that he would die less than 24 hours later, he said.”
Interesting that the fan’s description of Michael, 3 days before his death, and Ehrlich’s are very different.
There’s also more info on the doctor who was living with Michael. The article described him as a “financially troubled cardiologist” who Michael insisted be put on the tour payroll because he had a “rapport” with him.
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“Records reveal years of financial troubles for Murray, who practices medicine in California, Nevada and Texas; his Nevada medical practice, Global Cardiovascular Associates, was slapped with more than $400,000 in court judgments, and he faces at least two other pending cases and several tax liens.”
(Both articles on Yahoo News)
#111 had mentioned that interview, and I remember it, and just getting chills. Michael wasn’t just physically abused. There was a lot of mental and emotional on top of being denied a childhood. I don’t have to wonder why he started going down hill. On top of the pedo accusations, his skin condition and lupus, I’d be self medicating too
As you age, you have to look at that man in the mirror, which he did. But along with looking, is looking back to that past. Your childhood is what shapes you. It saddens me so much that he didn’t have one. But my Lord, what a talent and artist he was. I know all heck is going to break loose when the tox screens come back. But frankly, I’m not going to be surprised. Knowing personally what verbal and mental/emotional abuse does to you alone, I think it’s a miracle and blessing we had him on this Earth for as long as we did. I don’t know how yet, but good will come of this.
I didn’t expect my reaction at all to his death. My husband’s neither. Except in my youth, I was never a rabid fan of his. And yet I feel this huge loss. Maybe because I relate to his childhood issue. Maybe because I admire the strength to be different. He certainly wasn’t Jesus, and Lord knows MJ had his ego, issues and insecurities. But he’ll always be the King of Pop. I know I’m rambling…I’m sorry. Just so much to digest on top of the fascination of how it affected me.
Posted today on Youtube, the lastest prisoner tribute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK25cfzdTTg
This “middle aged woman” has nothing but fond memories of the Michael Jackson movement. I am speechless that this talented man of my “teenhood” is now gone. I have lost a great deal of people this year, friends and family alike and all I can say is “IT SUCKS GETTING OLD” I don’t care what everyone else says, it just does! I am grateful for my family, particularly my children, but everyone who has touched my life. I have grown to appreciate everyone, friendly or unfriendly who have crossed my path. In my opinion, this death is bigger than the loss of Elvis, when I was 12. R.I.P. MJ!
Back in 2005 at the time of his trial for child molestation, Dr. Deepak Chopra was a guest on Larry King Live. At that time, he (Chopra) gave his take on MJ and his world from a spiritual/holistic perspective. If I recall correctly, Chopra told Larry that that MJ was taking prescription drugs in large amounts. I just remembered this this afternoon. Now, if MJ passed because of an overdose from demerol, it makes more sense. MJ became a total recluse – the whole thing is just so painfully sad. He was a genius and achieved so much despite his tortured childhood.
My above post probably went to spam because I messed up with the link so here it is without the link.
Merette, Deepak was on Keith Olbermann the night Michael died. He was very angry. He is pissed that nobody heeded his warnings. He is also pissed that the doctors who treat celebrities are nothing more than legalized drug pushers. He was very forthcoming and honest in his statement. He even admitted that after Michael’s last trial, He came to stay with Deepak for a week. He asked Deepak to write him a script for oxycontin and Deepak refused. I think even Keith was surprised at how candid he was. I have a lot of respect for Deepak. He got pretty choked up at the end. The interview is on youtube. Search for
Deepak Chopra Interview Re: Michael Jackson’s Death
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you can just delete the above post.
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Merette, Deepak was on Keith Olbermann the night Michael died. He was very angry. He is pissed that nobody heeded his warnings. He is also pissed that the doctors who treat celebrities are nothing more than legalized drug pushers. He was very forthcoming and honest in his statement. He even admitted that after Michael’s last trial, He came to stay with Deepak for a week. He asked Deepak to write him a script for oxycontin and Deepak refused. I think even Keith was surprised at how candid he was. I have a lot of respect for Deepak. He got pretty choked up at the end. The interview is on youtube. Search for
Deepak Chopra Interview Re: Michael Jackson’s Death
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I missed Deepak on Keith Olberman. I will have to watch the interview on my office computer on Monday when I can access high-speed internet. I thought Deepak had said something on Larry King Live in 2005 about MJ staying with him for help and counseling. I think Deepak is an outstanding person and great spiritual teacher. I am glad Deepak spoke out about these doctors who treat celebrities. They really are no more than drug pushers who are never held accountable because they have a license. They are despicable. Thanks for the info about the Youtube interview.
I doubt that MJ died from only demerol…or only an opiate….and suspect it was an opiate/xanax combo. Opiate addicts have an extremely high tolerance for opiates. What happens is that we are all born with a certain number of opiate receptors which are basically for our own natural endorphins. When one takes opiates, the body, sensing too high a level in the bloodstream, starts making more opiate receptors to accommodate them. Then more opiates are needed, and then even more receptors are created and this just goes on and on. So it would take a massive amount of opiates alone to kill an opiate addict. Most fatalities are non-addicts, often teens, who will take something like oxycontin at a party.
Much more likely in the case of an OD of an opiate addict, is that he was taking benzos like xanax and valium along with opiates. This causes a synergistic effect, increasing the potential for respiratory depression. I also suspect he may have been shooting up his opiates. I read somewhere that he injected oxycontin and that’s usually injected IV and not parenterally.
Also……once a person/addict creates all those extra receptors, they (the receptors) never die. They will go inactive if the addict gets clean but once opiates are taken again, they all wake up rather quickly and you are back to previous levels and soon going up in dose even higher.
Just some info if anyone has had to deal with addiction in their family.
Basically, the misery of opiate withdrawal is caused by all those receptors going inactive…..during which time, the body over-produces noradrenaline. When people with severe pain must take opiates regularly but do not abuse them, they are not considered addicted but rather, physically dependent. And they have to go through the same miserable withdrawal if they stop the opiates.
A significant downside of these celebrities getting doctor feel-goods who keep them supplied with opiates is that anytime a fatality happens, like this one, there is an over-reaction and doctors become more afraid and hesitant to order opiates for people who really need them….cancer patients, etc. So this behavior, particularly of celebrities, is actually doing a disservice to and very unfair to people in serious pain.
On CNN last night, one of the expert guests did say that they need to check into why the pharmacy would fill all those scripts, esp. for one patient. This should have sent up red flags immediately. I was glad she said that because they always talk about the doctors involved, but rarely the pharmacies/pharmacists.
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I think the onus is not as much on the pharmacies as the doctors. Patients can get multiple prescriptions from multiple doctors and have them filled at multiple pharmacies. If a patient wants to abuse prescriptions, they will typically be smart enough to not have them all filled in the same place. A pharmacist can’t take action against abuse or possible drug interactions if they never see the full picture.
Now Billy Mays the OxyClean pitchman dead, 50 years old. (see TMZ) He was hit on the head durning a hard landing in a plane yesterday but they don’t yet know if that was the cause of death. His wife found him unresponsive. Geeze, who’s next?
I loved his music, but I think he was a freak of nature and he knew it. That is why was so isolated and morphed into a freak of nature unlike himself in real life. He knew this after the cave in of his nose..That was not what he wanted.
I remember singing in the 3rd grade “Rockin Robin”.
I remember and have a ” Don’t Stop Till You get Enough” Album and dancing my ass off.
That song is not played in his wake. All we see is Thriller
He was a great person. But he was like Elvis…had it ALLLL, didn’t know what to and how to handle it.
God Bless him and his family.
He had such a great family and a world of doctors that they sould have told him” YOUR GOING DOWN FAST..STOP!!!
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I loved his music, but I think he was a freak of nature and he knew it. That is why was so isolated and morphed into a freak of nature unlike himself in real life. He knew this after the cave in of his nose..That was not what he wanted.
I think his freak of a father had a lot to do with how Michael Jackson ultimately turned out, unfortunately.
Nobody told Elvis, stop taking uppers to get up in the morning and stop taking downers to go to bed at night. THIS IS A FACT! Alot of people knew this with Michael Jackon was happening. They say it isn’t the right time to talk about this………I say HELL YES!!!! If people look up to him, then tell them……..THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ABUSE DRUGS! Even if you are precribed them and the doctor say they are OK.
Didn’t his eating disorder also help push him to an early death. I think he could tolerate a lot of drugs but not the mix he was doing on top of most likely an electrolyte imbalance from his crazy eating disorder. I wasn’t ever a fan of his so I can’t speak much to his career but sounds like a lot of folks were hoping to see him comeback and I think I heard some of those London shows were already sold out.
Another tragic out come from a childhood abused and misused.
Yes. Like Elvis….there are so MANY THAT TOLD HIM TO STOP. But like addiction, he didn’t and as result he died. I feel sorry for what he left behind…He did not think about those.
Electrolytes play so many things. I guess he or his doctors never took that in consideration. I feel his doctors knew.
if you are a healthy…….why do you have a person doctor????????????